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Should Rockets sign Marcus Fizer?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Yaowaming, Sep 10, 2004.

  1. AMS

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    Never pick up a former Bobcat.... DUH :eek:

    but in all reality, i used to really like this guy out of college, and always rooted for him to be a better player than KMart. But I guess riding the bench doesnt usually let a player show his stuff.
     
  2. The_Yoyo

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    i rather get stromile swift instead or try to pick up demarr johnson, another player who never gotten a chance to prove himself because of injuries but i was a bigger fan of demarr than martin at cinci. demarr can backup tracy allowing ward/sura to be our primary pgs. also demarr is a former knick:cool:
     
  3. Sane

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    What we need to do is just trade the TE for an expiring contract. Then, a month later, once we are free to trade the player however we want, we package him with Lue or Spoon or Howard or whoever for a nice player.

    The TE just complicates things. If CD knew he wasn't going to use it, he should've acquired an expiring contract early on so that we would be free to use it in a trade by now.
     
  4. tmac

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    Fizer was a dominant college PF who didn't have the size to be a real NBA PF. It's similar to Corliss Williamson, although Williamson eventually found his niche. I don't think Fizer would help much.
     
  5. Hmm

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    If T-mac doesn't want em, I don't want em.
     
  6. Shark44

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    No to Fizer. We have good complimentary PFs. We don't need super stars or projects (Fizer). Juwan, Mo and Spoon will do well on this team. They each play a bit differently and will bring something to our team.
     
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    When Fizer was picked by the Bobcats, they did so because he was a restricted free agent. When an expansion team picks a restricted free agent, he automatically becomes an unrestricted free agent and the drafting team, the Bobcats, are not liable for any salary on that contract. It was basically a way to burn an expansion pick they had to use. They had no interest in him or his contract, as the Bobcats are trying build with young, inexpensive players. I can't see him helping the Rocks any, and it should be a warning sign that no one else has even bothered to pick him up.
     
  8. Yaowaming

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    What do you love about the guy?

    He's not all that good of a rebounder. Just ok.

    His offense is very limited.

    He does not block shots.


    I would not mind him as a back up but we already have MoT who is better and does at least one thing very well...score. Fizer does several things ok but nothing really well.
     
  10. MONON

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    Anyone left is probably not any better than we have now. We need to see what this group can do & address any shortcomings just before the trade deadline.
     
  11. leehoang

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    No, because I rather have Spoon and his experience. Plus I dont like Fizer.
     
  12. AMS

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    blah spoon sucks, why do so many people like him... bring up the thread to when we traded mooch for him...
     
  13. leehoang

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    Mooch = Overpaided

    After you sign the big contract, the players get useless, look at Mo-T, look at Cato, perfect examples of what I like to call "Waste of Money."
     
  14. AMS

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    spoon has quite the large contract.
     
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    Weren't the Knicks about to buy out Spoons contract before the Moochie trade?

    Anyway, he's still serviceable. The fact that he has no neck really bothers me, so I rather see him traded, bought out, etc...
     
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    If he stayed healthy, Fizer's toughness and rebounding alone would make him an immediate upgrade over Spoon (like that is a bold statement) and Taylor at times (when offense from PF isn't needed due to matchups, who is on the court, etc). So in other words, regardless of how some of you guys may not "like" him for whatever reason---he could still be a huge off of the bench.

    But I am not going to to hold my breath. He won't be a Rocket anytime in the immediate future so its time to move on........
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    He wasn't cut by the Bobcats. He was a restricted free agent of the Bulls, so when the Bobcats picked him up in the expansion draft, they got his Bird rights, but he was still a free agent (unrestricted). They'd have to sign him to a contract before they'd have the opportunity to cut him.
     
  18. Yaowaming

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    Should we sign any of them???

    http://www.nba.com/features/remaining_fa_040913.html


    Some prominent names remain in the 2004 free agent class
    Top Remaining Free Agents for 2004-05

    By Rob Peterson

    Sept. 13 -- It's September. Do you know where your free agents are?
    While marquee names such as Kobe Bryant and Manu Ginobili stayed put and Kenyon Martin, Steve Nash, and Carlos Boozer found new homes, 56 unrestricted and restricted free agents remain on the market as of Monday.

    After scrolling through the names, you can see why some players still remain unemployed at this late date. Some of them have put much mileage on their bodies. Some are career journeymen. Some are both. But in this yet-to-be-harvested crop of free agents, a few intriguing names remain.

    Yet, with seven weeks until Premiere Week 2004 and three weeks until training camps open, time to find employment grows short for these players.

    Here is our short list of the top remaining free agents.

    Karl Malone
    • 6-9, 259, 41 years old, Los Angeles Lakers, unrestricted



    YEAR G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
    2003-04 42 42 32.7 .483 .000 .747 8.7 3.9 1.19 0.48 13.2
    Career 1476 1471 37.2 .516 .274 .742 10.1 3.6 1.41 0.78 25.0



    Karl Malone
    Jesse D. Garrabrant
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    He's 41 years old and he is coming off a season where he suffered the first significant injury of his career, but any contending team looking to win the NBA title and not pursuing the Mailman could be making a mistake. Malone showed, that when healthy, he could still make a difference on a championship-caliber team as he averaged a productive 32.7 minutes per game.

    He also showed that he could set aside his ego by not needing to be the focus of the offense. Minnesota and San Antonio reportedly have shown interest in Malone. Shaquille O'Neal has tried to deliver the Mailman to South Beach. The Lakers are also in the hunt for Malone's services.




    Stromile Swift
    • 6-9, 230, 24, Memphis Grizzlies, restricted



    YEAR G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
    2003-04 77 10 19.8 .469 .250 .725 4.9 0.5 0.73 1.53 9.4
    Career 292 56 21.0 .472 .077 .702 5.1 0.6 0.77 1.43 8.8




    Stromile Swift
    Ronald Martinez
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    Agile, athletic, explosive. So, why hasn't anyone offered him a contract this offseason? First, he's restricted and his employer, the Memphis Grizzlies have the right to match any offer and have said they would. Second, despite his physical gifts, Swift has never become a consistent, let alone dominant, presence on either end of the floor. As a matter of fact, he's only started 56 games in his four-year career.

    Any team picking him up now would be banking on his enormous potential. Question is, can any team afford the type of bank it would take to get Swift in their uniform?



    Jon Barry
    • 6-5, 210, 35, Denver Nuggets, unrestricted



    YEAR G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
    2003-04 57 9 19.3 .404 .370 .845 2.2 2.6 1.00 0.14 6.2
    Career 732 34 16.4 .435 .388 .847 1.8 2.2 0.89 0.14 5.7




    Jon Barry
    David Sherman
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    Now, why would anyone sign a 35-year-old shooter who has never started more than nine games in a season? Because Barry, of the famed basketball Barrys (son of Rick, brother of Spurs guard,Brent), not only has the genes, but he also has the energy of a guy half his age. As he showed in Denver last season, Barry can still put up 20 energetic minutes per game.

    Couple with that 12 years of NBA experience, and a team in the NBA title hunt may be able to use that combination of competitive fire and offensive skill to their advantage.



    Marcus Fizer
    • 6-8, 260, 26, Chicago Bulls, unrestricted



    YEAR G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
    2003-04 46 2 16.0 .383 .118 .750 4.4 0.9 0.35 0.17 7.8
    Career 232 35 21.9 .432 .194 .693 5.0 1.2 0.47 0.29 10.5




    Marcus Fizer
    Fernando Medina
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    In his first few years in the Windy City, Fizer looked as if he would be a big part of the Bulls' future. But injuries have taken their toll. And after being selected by Charlotte in the expansion draft and then being waived, Fizer would just welcome another chance now.

    Big and strong, Fizer plays best when he's the focal point of an offense, as he was in college. Is there a team which is willing to put their offense in Fizer's hands now? Probably not. And his defensive numbers (0.29 blocks per game and 0.47 steals per game) aren't anything to crow about. But a team that signs him would hope to get the same decent minutes off the bench when he averaged 12.1 points per game and 5.6 boards per game over the course of his second and third seasons.



    DerMarr Johnson
    • 6-9, 205, 24, New York Knicks, unrestricted



    YEAR G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
    2003-04 21 1 13.7 .371 .361 .903 1.9 0.5 0.38 0.33 5.4
    Career 171 68 19.5 .386 .349 .794 2.7 0.9 0.66 0.54 6.5




    DerMarr Johnson
    Nathaniel Butler
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    DerMarr Johnson? Yes, DerMarr Johnson. The reed-thin forward broke his neck in a car accident before the 2002-2003 season. Some wondered if he would ever play again, but Johnson worked his way back into the NBA with the Knicks last season.

    Before his accident, Johnson started in 46 games and averaged 8.4 points per game in his second season with the Hawks. He also played well in limited action for the Knicks and at age 24 still has time to develop into the player some thought he could be in Atlanta ... if he finds the right team.



    Travis Best
    • 5-11, 185, 32, Dallas Mavericks, unrestricted



    YEAR G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
    2003-04 61 1 12.5 .372 .150 .870 1.1 1.8 0.51 0.07 2.8
    Career 632 142 21.7 .432 .349 .830 1.8 3.6 0.94 0.08 7.7




    Travis Best
    Glenn James
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    The best (really, no pun intended) of the remaining point guards on the free agent market. His age (32) and his size (5-11) combined with a desultory season for the Mavericks last season may have turned some teams off. But NBA teams are always on the lookout for veteran leadership at the point guard position.

    And despite his low shooting percentage from the field and from behind the arc, Best has often had no problem finding the bottom of the net. Yet, at this stage in his career, Best will probably need to focus more on his playmaking than his shooting if he wants to hook on with a team for this season.
     
  19. wireonfire

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    He made the winning shot in a heartbreaker last season (or the one b4) over the Rox.
     
  20. scotia

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    There isnt anything we can for spoon ;)
     

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