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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by sydmill, Nov 17, 2023.

  1. tc0330

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    I agree with this. no reason to jump the gun to save a few mil that could be an even bigger risk if he turns out to be a 1 year wonder
     
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    I don’t know but it needs to happen already!!
     
  3. A_3PO

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    You think the Chiefs defense was horrible last year?

    You. Have. No. Clue.
     
  4. TEXNIFICENT

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    They were pretty good
     
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    Yup! Mediocre at best…jones was the whole defense he made everyone look better.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    You double-down and verify the truth beyond the shadow of a doubt. Yup, dive in deeper and say whatever you must say to avoid admitting how stupid the statement was.

    By your definition, I hope the Texans defense is "horrible" this coming season and finishes #2 in the NFL.
     
  7. Sooty

    Sooty Contributing Member

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    Tell us you don’t watch football without telling us you don’t watch football.

    You really missed Spags’ scheming and how they have some young dudes that work that scheme really well.
     
  8. BMoney

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    I don't think this is supported by any metric, or observer.
     
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    We’re not getting Aiyuk, chill.
     
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  11. A_3PO

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    This is not news. They won't reach an agreement until well into the summer.
     
  12. RHU525

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    Then you let him walk, and realize how good he had it with CJ. We've seen Nico before CJ. Absolute garbage, you really think he improved that much? Can find a cheaper replacement easily.
     
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  13. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

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    I think nico collins has always been good, he was just supressed by dipshits like pep hamilton.
     
  14. Hemingway

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    And injuries. Nico is a good wide receiver if he can stay on the field. We do need depth at the position. We don’t yet know if Tank can take the beating and Nico is a wild card in terms of injuries. It is a dilemma. Do you extend now and save some money or wait another year and if he stays healthy see the price go up?
     
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  15. RHU525

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    Good is relative. If you were to look around nfl where do you think he would rank as far as recievers go? I'm not sure he's top 20 and he wants to be paid like top 5 I'm sure.
     
  16. Sooty

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    I think Nick is going to be very diligent with the wide receiver room and forecasting a percentage of the salary cap as well.

    Right now, it would make sense to pay Nico on a slightly shorter deal since we have a star quarterback on a rookie contract. However, in three years, we will have to extend the contracts of Stroud, Tank, and Anderson.

    The Chargers and Jaguars had one of the highest-paid receiving groups (wide receivers and tight ends) in the NFL, but their productivity wasn't optimal (irrespective of any injuries).

    Meanwhile, teams like the Vikings, Lions, and to a lesser extent, the Bengals have managed relatively well - constantly topping up and not overpaying that 3rd tier.

    Ideally, you need to have a top 8-10 receiver (top tier) and then spend high-end draft capital (day one or two) in later years.

    Over the past 6-7 years, we've seen a trend where receivers, if you draft the right one, have been able to step in immediately while being cost-controlled. In contrast, the average annual value of contracts for middle-tier wide receivers often doesn't reflect their actual value. For example, Ridley has a ridiculous contract for a receiver who isn't quite tier one.

    There's no hard science to it, but you need to have a star receiver and draft a day one or two prospect every couple of years to manage the cost to a certain percentage of the salary cap.
     
  17. J.R.

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    In no particular order:
    Justin Jefferson
    Tyreek Hill
    Ja’Marr Chase
    Cooper Kupp
    CeeDee Lamb
    Davante Adams
    Brandon Aiyuk
    AJ Brown
    Amari Cooper
    DJ Moore
    Amon-Ra St. Brown
    Puca Nacua
    DK Metcalf
    Devonta Smith
    Jaylen Waddle
    Garrett Wilson
    Chris Olave
    Stefon Diggs
    Keenan Allen
    Mike Evans

    Others:
    Nico
    Michael Pittman Jr.
    Deebo Samuel
    George Pickens
    Terry McLaurin
    Tyler Lockett
    Chris Godwin
    Tee Higgins
    Zay Flowers
    Calvin Ridley
    DeAndre Hopkins
    Jaxon Smith-Njigba
    Jordan Addison
    Courtland Sutton
    Christian Kirk
    Tyler Boyd
    Rashee Rice
    Marquise “Hollywood” Brown
    Drake London
    Jayden Reed
    Mike Williams
    Jerry Jeudy
    Gabe Davis
    Romeo Doubs
    Christian Watson
    Coming soon: Marvin Harrison Jr., Malik Nabers, Rome Odunze

    Miss anyone?

    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-wide-receivers-nfl-rankings/
    Nico 19, Tank 25

    https://thegameday.com/nfl/power-rankings/wr/
    Nico 22, Tank 35

    https://espnanalytics.com/rtm (“These ratings, updated weekly, use player-tracking data from NFL Next Gen Stats to evaluate every route a pass catcher runs and scores his performance in three phases of the game, from 0 to 99.”)
    Nico 3(!), Tank 10(!)
     
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  18. jch1911

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    DFW police are currently looking for someone on this list... rhymes with Washee Wice
     
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  19. Fulgore

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    And nothing at qb his first couple of years.
     
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