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I.D.I.O.T. - Offensive Inefficiency

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Feb 23, 2024.

  1. jim1961

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    How many of our guys set good screens?
     
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    Early in the season, sure. But lately, not so much.
     
  3. theDude

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    It’s just reality. Jabari has actually improved this year, but to have that many games under 40% from your PF is a problem. He was drafted for his shot. Obviously, someone that shoots from outside is going to have a lower % than a bruiser, but when we were counting on his shot to be a difference maker and it’s not there, that hurts.

    And Jalen was always expected to have a high usage, so to be that inefficient, especially from the 3 is crippling. He’s young, yes, but he was a high draft pick and he’s in his 4th year of pro ball, so these results are not acceptable.

    Seeing marked improvement from the team overall with FVV and Brooks being the major additions absolves them of some culpability.

    It might be harsh, but that’s the way I look at it.
     
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    Paint is always crowded - so we have no driving lanes, players don’t move much above arc so the defense stays set … it’s what whenever anyone drives they have to get through 2-3 defenders for a layup

    it’s also what Jalen misses so many at rim because he doesn’t have the body (Amen and Cam do) - Jalen also can’t buy a foul call (dunk last night where CJ pushed him from behind)

    FVV needs a floater because he’s never going to hit a layup

    Alpi and Tate also have a bad habit of crashing in too early and bringing their man also ( last night Amen had post up near basket and Sengun crashes brining his man and it ended up being a TO)

    Bari and Cam and Amen timing on hitting offensive boards are pretty good - (Tari also) we have to get Cam and Bari more shot attempts and limit Brooks FVV and Jalen

    at this point I would tell Jalen dribble in and take midrange vs the 3 … 36% was the Morey Goal of 3 vs 2 … but Jalen needs to see ball going in vs taking and missing the exact same shots game after game
     
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    People are really missing that point. The offensive talent is not even close to Bostons or the Popovich Spurs. It's not even league average. I'm sorry but the offensive scheme is not making these dudes good shooters.
     
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    .5 .. I give Sengun half a points worth of credit, but he aint great either. So maybe none? Enter Steven Adams I guess.
     
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  7. jim1961

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    3pt%

    Nov 41%
    Dec 38%
    Jan 35%
    Feb 44%

    Dillons outside shot isnt the reason we are losing in February.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/3155526/dillon-brooks
     
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  8. Mathloom

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    Patient, hard-working cluelessness. So weird to watch but it really highlights the gap between Udoka and the players. I think Udoka doesn’t want to face the fact that it’s not just an effort or patience issue. No one is going playoff mode for 82 games. Not even the #1 seed.

    He just has to be more heavy handed instructing the offense. Start yanking or benching guys even sooner. If the screw up on defense he takes them out immediately. If they screw up on offense he waits till the other team goes on a long run.

    I think Udoka cares about offense about as much as MDA cared about defense. Mostly clap clap and lip service, no follow through. I hope we bring in an elite lead offensive assistant this summer.

    For the time being make it easy on Udoka, just start Bullock at the 2. He makes 39% of his 3’s and a better defender than Cam and Jalen. He’s catch and shoot only so it won’t require any creativity out of Udoka. I’d rather start Cam but I don’t think Udoka is loving Cam as much as this board otherwise he’d be starting right now.
     
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    Your post was about his 3pt shooting.
    Missed layups is an entirely different conversation.
     
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    My post was about his overall 3 point shooting from his Memphis days, the dude above me wanted to just include this season.

    But I will have my way in the end.

    The sample size in Houston would have to include all of his contract years to really say something about his time here.

    His shooting helped the team to stay close in many games, no doubt, but his fouling also gave much away....
     
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    What's crazy is that Fred, Dillon, and Jabari all have their best eFG% and TS% of their careers this season. To say they are inefficient isn't really backed up with the stats. Take last night for instance, those 3 combined to shoot 7-19 from the floor overall, but were also 6-13 from BTA. While their overall % of .369 looks bad, their .462 BTA is elite.
     
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    I would love to see

    Amen
    Jalen
    Cam
    Bari
    Alpi

    and just rebound and push the ball down other teams throat - all these players are great if they get fed downhill (Bari has greatly improved)

    Let FVV Holiday JeffG Brooks and Tate or Bullock run the bench
     
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    Teams have always played JG drives a lot of attention which is nuts he gets so much respect or they just know he’s a brick from outside lol
     
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    All their career highs, but still below league average.
     
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    The original post was about a stat related to this year, so his Memphis days were irrelevant to the point I was making. Brooks is shooting 44% this year (the best of his career) and he is still on this list. That There are previous years where he barely shot above 40%, so he is likely going to be near the top of a list like this most years. The team would have expected this from him and still accepted it because of the other aspects he brings. It's just not alarming to see Brooks' name there.

    Fred actually has had years where his overall FG% was under 40%, so he is no surprise either. The team knew this and signed them because they they thought each would still make the team better, and they were correct. Because both of them are taking more 3s than 2s, they are getting more efficient shots than the FG% suggests.

    Jabari and Green are not doing that, so their presence here is what is affecting the team negatively. At least Jabari is much improved over last season and is trending in the right direction.

    Maybe it's just a poorly titled thread because FG% is not necessarily a good indicator for efficiency.
     
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    He should play more Tate . Start him at the 2 even. The guy would move off ball , and is much wiser than Cam.
     
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    How many of them move off the ball?
     
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  20. Rocket River

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    Is that even our offense
    and
    If they did who will get it to them at the right spot . .. outside of maybe FVV and Al-P

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