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House Intel Chairman announces ‘serious national security threat'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Feb 14, 2024.

  1. basso

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    the entire Russia hoax was just that, a fabrication.

    trump can still be unfit for office w/o taking things up.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    And lo and behold a few days later Russia released hacked emails from Clinton and the DNC.

    The Mueller report detailed multiple contacts between Trump’s family and campaign with people closely tied to the Russian government, as noted earlier Manafort was convicted of working with the Russian government.

    This is just repeating a talking point that belies the facts of Trump’s long history with Russia.
     
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  4. Ubiquitin

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    I wonder if all the Putin jock strappers are going to vote for Joe after this comment or will they support more aid for Ukraine because clearly Putin is a deep state agent to support the US liberal elites. Does MAGA hate liberals more than they love Putin?

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/14/europe/putin-biden-better-for-russia-than-trump-intl/index.html
    Putin says a Biden presidency is better for Russia than a Trump one

    CNN —
    A Joe Biden presidency would be better for Russia than a Donald Trump one, Russian President Vladimir Putin told pro-Kremlin journalist Pavel Zarubin in an on-camera interview Wednesday.

    Asked by Zuribin about the upcoming US presidential election, Putin said Biden would be better for Russia “because he is a more experienced person, he is predictable, he is a politician of an old formation.”

    However, he added that Russia would “work with any leader of the US that gains the trust of the American people.”


    Putin also said that in order to judge the actions of the current administration one should look at its “political position.”

    “I believe that the position of the current administration is extremely harmful and erroneous,” Putin said in a reference to Russia’s war in Ukraine.

    According to Putin, that war “could have been over a year and a half ago” if agreements during a meeting in Istanbul in March 2022 were kept. Putin didn’t specify what agreements he was referring to.


    The Russian president said he regretted that he “didn’t start active actions in Ukraine earlier” than February 2022, claiming that Western leaders had lied to Russia about “not expanding NATO to the East.”

    “We were and are concerned about the possibility of Ukraine being drawn into NATO, since this threatens our security,” Putin said.

    Putin also alleged that the Minsk agreements, a ceasefire protocol signed by Ukraine and Russia in 2015, was never meant to be kept but used “to buy time to load Ukraine with additional weapons.”

    The Russian leader also expressed disappointment around his recent interview with far-right media figure Tucker Carlson.

    “I honestly thought he would be aggressive and ask tough questions. I wasn’t only ready for that, I wanted that, because it would give me the opportunity to give tough answers back,” Putin said.

    “To be frank, I didn’t fully enjoy that interview,” he said.

     
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    CIA Had Foreign Allies Spy On Trump Team, Triggering Russia Collusion Hoax, Sources Say
    United States Intelligence Community targeted 26 Trump advisors for foreign spy agencies to “reverse target” and “bump”


    https://public.substack.com/p/cia-had-foreign-allies-spy-on-trump
     
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    They are suggesting the presence of nuclear capability in space (with a mid to long term serious security risk). Given that placing a nuclear weapon in space is illegal (although Russia has ignored treaties in the past), the speculation is that it's not a conventional nuclear weapon but rather a new nuclear capability designed to generate an EMP without detonating a bomb.
     
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    The "leak" was the maga republican house member that opposed the Ukraine/Israel/Taiwan support package. But sure, spin out your weird conspiracy theory...

     
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    And what does it say then that Trump still publicly called for Russia’s help during the election and Russia obliged? Or that Trump and members of his family and campaign met with people with close ties to Putin and Russian intelligence during the campaign. Or the some 30 plus convictions arising from Mueller’s research.
     
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    you're providing Trump with much more credit than he deserves. perhaps you think he was actually a capable president?
     
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    Just a corrupt one who doesn’t mind assistance from America’s enemies.
     
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    Why is the Mueller report being rehashed when no one bothered to read or remember that epic mega thread?

    Looks like there aren't any new info of Slavic Space Nukes to check the Illuminati's Jewish Space Lasers...
     
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    Russia has launched an orbital array of T-94 tanks.
     
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    We should send she hulk to stop them\they
    @Salvy
     
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  14. rocketsjudoka

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    The Trump campaign relationsip with Russia has been well documented and even tested in court with mu
    I don't know where you got that he is capable from that.
     
  15. basso

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    the Russian collusion argument has been proven to be the hoax that it always was. I get that you and Rob Reiner still believe it, and you can keep ****ing that chicken all you want, but it will not persuade the people that you need to persuade to prevent another Trump term.

    find a better argument.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    Ah so now moving on from ignoring facts to swearing. Very winning.

    Whether you believe it or not those are the facts. Whether it wins the election or not I'm more concerned about things like the rule of law and preserving the Constitutional framework. A president or a candidate that openly calls for foreign aid in our elections and then obstructs justice over it is a threat to those.

    Anyway your mind has long been made up so other than just reminding everyone else of the stakes of this next election given what happened in recent history not really expecting to convince you. But then again it's my first time in D&D. :p
     
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    keep ****ing that chicken.
     
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    Biden admin was working behind closed doors to dissuade Russia from testing space weapon
    Administration officials say last week’s revelations might have jeopardized U.S. efforts to dissuade Russia from moving forward.


    Politico
    By ERIN BANCO
    02/20/2024 11:29 AM EST

    One reason U.S. officials didn’t widely disseminate intelligence about Russia’s efforts to develop a new space weapon: The administration was trying to start talks to convince Russia to back off the program.

    Senior intelligence and administration officials had been reaching out to Russia — along with India and China as possible intermediaries — about the project for weeks before it became public, according to a U.S. official and a person familiar with the outreach.

    The intelligence indicated that Russia might be planning to start tests of the device — a space-based antisatellite weapon with nuclear capabilities, the people said. Both were granted anonymity to speak about ongoing sensitive negotiations with Moscow.

    The two people said that the administration had been worried that if the program became more widely known in Congress or in the public, that might scuttle the nascent efforts to get Russia to abort those tests. The Biden administration had also worried, they said, that if the details of the intelligence were revealed, the source of that information might dry up.

    The disclosures provide the Biden administration’s rebuttal to those arguing that they were too slow to make Russia’s effort more widely known.

    The officials declined to say whether Russia had responded to the initial reachout, but did say that since the program became public knowledge last week Russia has not shown any willingness to engage on the issue.

    Now, U.S. officials are increasingly concerned Russia will move forward with testing its space-based antisatellite nuclear weapon.

    If Russia were to succeed in its launch, it would demonstrate that it may have the ability to detonate a nuclear weapon in space and damage satellites that the U.S. and other countries rely on for communication, internet and military operations.

    The administration has previously downgraded intelligence on Russia, particularly on its operations in Ukraine, in part to exert pressure on Moscow publicly. But officials estimated that the space-related information was highly sensitive and that working through diplomatic channels was going to be more effective. They worried that if the information became public it would likely anger Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    Senior intelligence and administration officials have for more than a year tracked Russia’s progress on the production of its space-based nuclear antisatellite weapon, gathering information on its designs, its assembly and its tests.

    But in recent weeks, the administration has become increasingly concerned that Moscow would take the step to launch its device. And it shared those concerns — and corresponding intelligence — with a select group of lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

    Senior administration officials told lawmakers that it wanted to keep the intelligence close-hold so it could monitor Russia’s advancements and its potential test, the person familiar with the matter said.

    Senior officials in the intelligence community, the White House and the State Department in January gamed out a plan to try and get Russia to back off by exerting diplomatic pressure through intermediaries.

    U.S. officials reached out to their counterparts in China and India, raising the issue of Russia’s advancing capabilities and space and underscoring the danger and the possibility that their satellites could also be damaged. They also set out plans to further engage with representatives from those countries at the Munich Security Conference Feb. 17. Both countries are home to major private satellite companies and have independent space launch capabilities.

    National security adviser Jake Sullivan was set to brief lawmakers about those plans before House Intelligence Chair Mike Turner (R-Ohio) last week released a cryptic statement, setting off a wave of stories about the intelligence and Russia’s antisatellite weapon.

    Continued...
     

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