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What is Jalen Green's trade value now?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Jan 14, 2024.

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What is Jalen Green's trade value now?

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  1. deb4rockets

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    Wait. So you blame Sengun for Jalen's 3PT shooting and want to trade him, yet credit him for Cam's 3 PT shooting? Jalen isn't in that much when Cam is anymore.

    Of course not. What's that have to do with me saying we won't be competitive enough without better 3PT shooters? It's stupid for one of the worst 3PT shooters on the team to take so many 3PT shots. No wonder we're 27th in the league. Your solution is to fix that is to trade Sengun. LOL

    He took a whole lot of 3's last month at 30% shooting. Green might get up to 36, 37, 38, 39% one day. It might happen next year, or he also might just keep shooting poorly. He's regressed all 3 years from behind the arc.
     
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    This account is one of those 21 year old Twitter rats with that stole their moms credit card to pay for the verified status right?
     
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    Totally has nothing to do with his teammates ******** the collective bed in those games, nope not at all! :rolleyes:
     
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    Phase 2 is exceeding expectations if people were to step back and think about it objectively.
     
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    This team would be in the Top 6 with Scottie Barnes instead of Jalen Green.
     
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    Ordinarily, this makes sense.

    Except when saying this they fail to then say, trading Green also promotes a 19 year old who is already NBA-ready and miles ahead of Jalen Green and has earned his spot.
     
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    Very reasonable approach to Green. If he becomes consistent then simply march what he gets as a rfa.
     
  9. Haymitch

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    Bill Simmons did a top 75 trade value ranking.

    Almost Honorable Mention:
    Amen Thompson

    Honorable Mention:
    Cam Whitmore
    Jalen Green
    FVV

    #65:
    Jabari Smith Jr

    #28:
    Sengun
     
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    Bill Simmons is an idiot.
     
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    The classic "make him an offer he can refuse"? The offer you know he won't accept, then use that as a reason to trade him?

    Why do you need the pretext? You can't afford to pay all the youngsters when the time comes, and one of them hasn't developed much, if at all (which is still aggravating that we wasted two seasons treating Porter Jr and Green like entitled future stars).
     
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    the problem with this guys suggestion is that lowballing might disrespect him and it may backfire. The better option would be meeting somewhere in the middle. He can always gamble on himself and go into unrestricted and then wed lose him for nothing. Hes playing himself out of any lowball offer
     
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    If the Rockets have his bird rights, he is going Restricted FA first.

    He is entering unrestricted FA when he is normally done with both the Rookie contract and the Rookie contract Extension.....or as they say the Extension that Restricted FA forced him to accept.

    If there is not another Extension.

     
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    i understand that, but cant he just turn down the qulifying offer? Andd go into unreatricted?
     
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    He would have to accept QO and play a year on that to get to unrestricted FA to bypass restricted FA.
     
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    Why? It is similar a process like Free Agency... Why bypass that and go through the Process again just to fork with the Rockets?

    He and his agent cannot blame the Rockets for his inconsistent play, lol, that is just silly. Blame himself.

    Ballers love free agency, it is the time of the year they are courted by teams.......it is just the Rockets have Matching rights.
     
  18. Mathloom

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    I'm not offering Jalen anything till he takes a step up in efficiency. For any kind of offer, I need to first see a permanent improvement in finishing at the rim or 3pt shooting (high volume + very good efficiency). If he improves at any of those two, I'm offering $20-25m per season. If he improves at both, I'm offering him max or near max. That simple.

    Probably the latest we can leave the deadline for him to improve is 10-20 games into next season. Would rather know by this summer. Not taking a step up post ASB is a death sentence for Green imo, the pressure is on.
     
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    Which makes no sense for him financially. Players only go that option when they go scorched earth with their original team and don't want them to match
     
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    We treat Green like a player that just shows flashes, but for a player that just shows flashes he sure does show a lot of flashes. He has a crazy number of 30 point games for his age. He also has a crazy number of bad games for his short career.

    There's something odd about his development, players are usually not this bipolar in their performance by year 3. His performance is reminiscent of a typical talented SG drafted out of high school but his inconsistency is lasting too long. I thought that playing him a lot of minutes and giving him a lot of shots would accelerate his development but that seems like it was a bad idea now. Kobe and T-Mac posted similar efficiency numbers in their first two years and that was off the bench with way fewer shots. It would take T-Mac 5 years to reach Jalen Green's career worst TS% (significantly worse than Jalen his first 3 years). Kobe was hovering around the same TS% for 4 years. Garnett was similarly struggling his first couple of years.

    This is typical for G League Ignite prospects (see Kuminga coming on recently). It's typical for almost all HS players who panned out in the NBA. This may be why there's such a huge gap between our expectations and his development. Those guys had just shown flashes until years 3-5. Jalen's garbage development history is hurting us big time right now imo. Those 2 guys had their first 2 years off the bench getting rid of bad habits and installing good ones during the season. Jalen's first two years was doing whatever he wanted on offense and defense on a team that gave 0 f*cks about winning. Now you're relying on a completely inexperienced kid lacking fundamentals to know how to train himself up. Painful.

    I hope Jalen's development has some resemblance to theirs. Most SG's out of high school are mostly flash for the first couple of years then you start seeing sharp increases in efficiency. There does legitimately seem to be a pattern there, here is a list of HS draftees. It would not be surprising to any analyst if this kid took 2.5 years to become a professional winning player. It would be the same pattern of all HS draftees who went on to become big scorers, except Lebron James.
     
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