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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by cml750, Jun 25, 2016.

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  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

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    Yes TX oil and gas industry would help it but the US, Canada and other countries might want to protect their own O&G industries from an independent Texas. They could place sanctions or tariffs on TX energy. Also given that pipelines supplying TX refineries go through the US they could cut off the supply.
     
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    Another consideration is that most of TX’s refineries and LNG ports are in the coast in a hurricane prone area. TX has depended on federal aid to help recover from major storms but the US is under no obligation to help an independent TX.

    The new Republic of Texas could find itself physically and economically devastated the next storm season.
     
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    The rest of the country would suffer significantly if it didn’t have access to all of the refining, petrochemical, etc. that is done in Texas. Not to mention the Port/Ship Channel. It would be a lose/lose for everyone in my opinion.
     
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    Yes it would negatively affect the US. It would
    hurt TX much more. it wouldn’t be as bad as having a war or a blockade of TX. My point is that the US has many options short of war to convince an independent TX to return to the US.
     
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  5. JuanValdez

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    Since we're talking hypothetically, maybe 40 years from now Texas would be better off as part of Mexico than as part of the US.

    Self-interest or not, the idea of seceding is treason. It's fun to speculate how an independent Texas might fare, but I don't want anything to do with anyone that considers it a real viable option regardless of what the feds or other states might be doing.
     
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    Yep. The fact is that Texas today would not open rebellion without many of the southern states following suit, and we'd be right back into a modern day Civil War again anyways.... so yeah... it is treasonous and Confederate ideological alignment when right wingers fantasize about it.
     
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    The likelihood that Texas would be better off being part of Mexico than the United States in 40 years is very close to 0.

    The only way that Texas would be better off is if China or a group of countries invaded the US and destroyed the USA.

    Mexico is arguably not even a governed country as over half of it is currently under the control of Drug cartels, and the half that isn't still is corrupt - the former President and Vice President of Mexico took bribes from the best cartel in Mexico at the time.
     
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    I'd be happy if Texas secedes because that removes any chance conservative president would get enough electoral votes... probably locks in a Democrat congress. I say...

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    I think he’s saying in a hypothetical meaning if Mexico somehow evolved over time to a major respected player on the global stage. I don’t think anyone thinks anytime soon that Mexico will be enough of a global superpower to impact much of anything.

    Yes they have developed in manufacturing quite a bit over the past 20 years and that could grow to compete more with China eventually. But we are a long way away from that and yeah the cartels aren’t likely to go anywhere for years.

    At the same time Russia isn’t China or the US or even India… and they are essentially a corrupt mob state… however they still manufacture a military complex that and had the propaganda narrative along with the political will to invade Ukraine. In 40 to 50 years who knows what Mexico will be. My money would be on climate change making it look more like an uninhabitable Sahara like desert scape.

    But who knows. Texas would be vulnerable if they seceded in many ways. That’s undeniable.
     
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    Quit making empty threats... do it!

     
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Texas CANNOT secede, it would be a disaster for everyone, and it will NEVER happen, so can we keep the MAGA dumbdumbs from talking about it?
     
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    Haley wouldn't fight to keep the Union intact???
     
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    Any posters have their finger on the pulse of Mexican industrialists' opinions on the matter?
     
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    :)
     
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    If Texas successfully seceded:

    The U.S. Military bases would close eliminated $114 Billion from the TX economy. The areas around those bases would be decimated.

    Texans would no longer be U.S.citizens and no longer be eligible for federal benefits.
    4.6 Million Texans currently receive SS and would lose their income
    9 million Texans currently receive Medicare/Medicaid and would no longer have health insurance.
    This would cause the poverty rate in Tx to skyrocket.
     
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    No, but I'll ask my Industrious Mexicans what they think about this
     
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    I used to live next to a small town in California called Rough and Ready.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rough_and_Ready,_California
     
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    I assume the average room-temp-IQ fantasy of this includes droves of soldiers on those bases also turning traitor and keep them big ol guns with 'em.
     

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