I know some people are bitter losers, but come on ... Its been 4 years now. The worst argument is that Gore got more votes overall and that he was the truly elected president. Lets say a baseball team wins 4 games in the world series by 1 run, but in the 3 games they lost they got beat by 15 each game. Saying that the team that only won 3 games makes as much sense as saying Gore won the election. You play by the rules in politics and baseball. Strategies change when rules change so we have no idea who would have won the popular vote had that been the deciding vote and not the electoral college. As for convention analysis ... most people here already have their mind made up. If you are democratic you are probably going to think all the RNC speeches suck and vice-versa. The real purpose of the convention is to influence people who don't care enough to post on an internet forum about it. We'll have to wait and see the poll numbers after the convention to see who really did the best job. My thinking is that everything is going to be about a wash. It's going to come down to debates closer to election time.
Don't worry. I'm over it. But it's still the truth. IMHO, the 2000 Presidential "Election" was the second coup d'etat in American Political History. John F. Kennedy's assassination was the first. Let the debates begin!
You know if Gore had won his home state, florida would not have mattered. Just an observation... Carry on...
Perhaps if Brother Jeb weren't the governor, and all those black people weren't disenfranchised, Gore would have won Florida! Carry on....
While we're at shoddy politics, I had a REAL problem with them "predicting" a Gore victory less than an hour after the polls closed on the East Coast, and over TWO hours to go before the West coast closed polls and over ONE HOUR before the Mountain polls closed. To me, that's just bad policy. No media bias, indeed....
i don't even want to go into media bias. but i agree wholeheartedly..this is bad, bad policy. going on national TV and projecting winners before the polls close around the country is a bad, bad idea. didn't the networks say they wouldn't do that again??
If you can't win your own state then you most likely do not deserve to be president since your own state knows you better than anyone. Besides the idea that people were disenfranchised is proposterous. There have not been even one proven case of disenfranchisement to come out of Florida....except maybe the military absentee votes. You know that the counties that all this "bad stuff" happened was DemocRAT controlled..didn't you?
there's an interesting article in the new Details magazine about Jeb and how it's more likely he can become POTUS in 2008 if W loses this year. Don't know how accurate that assertion is but it was a funny read. By the way, how come Jeb doesn't speak with that Texan "accent" that his brother does?
No, actually there were thousands of people who were mistakenly purged from voting rolls because they had the same name as an ex-felon. Thousands. Considering Bush won Florida by 500 or so votes, that is a substantial purge.
LOL, TJ must not have gotten the memo. Even the conservative press realized that these two were a catastrophe: Embarrassing that you jumped the gun like this.
No one...not one person was turned away or not given a chance to vote. There would have been many filed lawsuits with the federal election commission but none were. However, the military absentee vote was denied by the Lawyer of Gore when they tried say that the would not count due to some obscure technicality. Ironically, the military vote was overwhelming for Bush but the lawyers denied that had anything to do with them filing lawsuits to disenfranchise...err I mean to not count their votes. However, no matter how many times they tried to recount or how many ways they tried to "interpret" the meaning of a pregnant chad, Bush still came out on top. BTW, the recounts that were ordered to be done were illegally ordered by the Florida Supreme court since they cannot change election laws...only the Florida senate can. Anyhow..... all that is ancient history. Bush won no matter how you slice it....time to move on.
come on now. we got to let florida go and move on. when all was said and done, dubya won florida and thus the election. however, it is a bit of a coincidence that dubya's bro is governor of the state that caused such a flap. also, i never hesitate to point out that while he won the ELECTORAL vote, dubya lost the POPULAR vote by about a half million. definately not an insignificant amount and clearly not a mandate by the people to take his agenda as far as he has.
-This would be akin to a Rockets fan telling a Spurs fan: "We would have made the finals in 93 if Robinson's post-buzzer tip-in hadn't counted as that cost us homecourt" and the Spurs fan responding "well, if you had made 2 more FT's in the game, it wouldn't have been an issue, would it have?" -The point is Bush "won" with a huge controversy and the indisputable fact is that more Americans voted for his opponent than him on that day. We've all paid a steep price for that disaster the last 4 yrs. Things were going great till the Moron came in and screwed everything up.
Ridiculous analogy. An election is a popularity contest by state to determine the electorial votes. Bush won the electorial college because he won the most states including Gore's home state. In your analogy, I am sure that if you would take a poll at any game in the NBA that you would find that the home team would win everytime over the visiting team. Which goes to prove that the home folks know you best and they would want you to win and not the other guy. Tennesse did not give Gore the majority in the state even after years of public service for the state. Hmmm.....
And what price was paid exactly? What is screwed up. Unemployement is exactly the same rate that it was when Clinton was elected in 1996. The stock market is about where it was. The only thing screwed up is that the leftist wackos are no longer in power and cannot deal with it.
It is not election of votes it's a vote of the electorial college (ie winning states). Everyone knew that going in it's only after the fact that the whiny @ss liberals complain about getting the most votes but losing. You knew the rules, you lost and you cry and complain. Also Gore selected his platform. He chose to run an election on Gore rather than what Clinton had began (he disassociated himself with Willy). You tell me who the moron was on the last ballot. And as others have mentioned if your home state doesn't want you as the President why would anyone else?
