[Movie] Martin Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon

Interesting. Spielberg said it is Scorsese's masterpiece, which is a pretty intense statement coming from him.

While I wouldn't agree with the above, I think there is something more to it than "humans are shitty."

 

Leonardo DiCaprio Should’ve Played the Cop and Not the ‘Idiot’ in ‘Flower Moon,’ Says Paul Schrader: ‘Three-and-a-Half Hours in the Company of an Idiot Is a Long Time’



https://variety.com/2023/film/news/...-moon-dicaprio-idiot-scorsese-1235857646/amp/

 

This is how these Hollywood pundits etc try to shape the narrative

 

Wait, which way? The last two posts have another director calling it a masterpiece, and a reviewer saying (QFT) that 3.5 hours is a long time to spend with a complete idiot.

@RudyTBag -- I acknowledge I'm not deeply knowledgable about cinema, but I take in a lot and think a lot... and I just didn't find this one to hold my interest very well. Really interesting comments from Spielberg. Maybe I'm just not old enough to appreciate this one, and that's not something we say very often about me on the BBS. Haha.

 

I thought it was a solid 7/10 film. It’s being hailed as another there will be blood etc

I never said it was bad, but the critics and audience do have a noticeable gap

 

Marty specializes in movies about shitty people
usually tries to make them sympathetic . . .. get the audience kind of on their side or at least "understand them"

Rocket River

 

He has this look for the entire movie. The forced sad face. Like [spoiler alert], in every scene.

I prefer my mentally challenged characters to have the occasional surprise.

 

Mmm-hmmm.

 

Finally saw it. Sleeeeeepy ass movie. Sturgill Simpson was a surprise. I think I knew he was in it but forgot - lulz. It was not a bad movie but I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER watch it again, EVER.

 

i went from "i have to see this" to "i think ill pass".

sounds like yall saved me 3.5 hours. i still havent seen the irishmen yet so maybe ill watch that instead.

 

Y'all ****ers are crazy if you didn't think this was a good movie.

 

Spoiler

 

I mean. It was good. But again - I'd never bother watching EVER AGAIN. Oppy I'd watch 50x.

 

The book of the real life events? Awesome. The movie? Major disappointment.

 

Yet, you would watch Oppenheimer 50x? LOL ***** stop.

 

Totally respect that you enjoyed it. And I guess it depends on "good" versus "enjoyable" maybe.

Some of the performances were spectacular, particularly RD and the wife and Plemens (sp). Many scenes are their own were fantastic, or at least strong. (Some were also totally overdone, IMHO, like with arty flames and fields, but whatever.) Anyway, my point would be that the scenes were repetitive as crap. I didn't see any character develop or any interesting arc, versus the book which actually had the arc of the interesting investigation.

Spoiler

Like, how many times do I have to see frowning, dumb-as-rocks Leo prepare poison for his wife, and how many times do I have to see her swooning, sickly in bed. And how many times do we have to see random native peeps getting killed? We get it.

In good movies, books, plays, etc, one scene pushes or compels the next. This, for many viewers apparently, just felt like a slog. The main character was incapable of developing or changing or even thinking, so that's a really tough narrative hill to climb.

 

Respect.