This. And i dont understand people that feel like Tari cant play with Dillon and the starters because neither are traditional sg. That just sounds like made up selective reasoning. We've seen tons of nba examples of guys not fitting traditional roles flourishing. We've seen tons of players people swore couldn't work together dominate. Put your best players on the floor. Ime gets it and thats why jalen only played 28 mins last night, the least amount of any starter. He actually needs a further reduction in mins. He should never be playing more than or equal to Tari. He wasnt a huge negative last night, but he didnt do much of anything to have a positive impact either. He was mostly just out there taking up space. But the bar had been set so low for him that jalenites consider that a good positive game for him.
Dillon is a lousy ball handler and a terrible passer. It’s a stupid idea and Ime does not throw stuff against the wall to see if it sticks. When Jalen is on he is the perfect fit on this team. Ime is going to try as hard as he can to elevate Jalen’s play.
Jalen is a lousy ball handler and a terrible passer too.... Also, did you notice the guys on the court at the end of the last game when it was time to win? It was Jeff Green Jabari Tari Brooks FVV So while you think it's "a stupid idea", it's pretty clear the coach doesn't share your opinion. It seems he thinks "a stupid idea" would be allowing Jalen on the court at the end of games.
This was a discussion of who is going to start not who ends the game. Ime changes his rotations to fit the moment. He has started Jalen every game, so yeah, Ime is agreeing with me. I’m concerned about Jalen as much as anybody, but he is still 21 and the coach is going to give him a long leash as long as we keep winning. If they find a good trade for Jalen then I’m ok with it. You guys are just impatient twits that don’t want to wait for the coaches (of which we now have some good ones) to do their jobs.
You can start anyone you want so long as you don't mind your team falling into a big hole.....pretty much what happened last night, but at some point you have to play your best players if you want a chance to win games. I argue that they shouldn't keep putting their team in a hole by starting a guy who isn't one of the top 8 players on the team, but I also understand that if they pull Jalen from the starting lineup, it kills whatever might be left of his trade value.
This has not been the case. Statistically we have one of the best starting units in the league, a couple of weeks ago it was rated no.1. If last night begins a trend, then Ime will make adjustments.
What about just rewarding the guy who's showing up on a night by night basis? The way coach is doing it now. I would imagine this would motivate Jalen to pick it up, and Sengun for that matter, and keep the wins coming. Coach said it at the beginning of the season. Nothing is given. PT has to be earned. Therefore, maybe the guys who finish the game need to be the guys who start the next one? Sounds crazy, but maybe uncle Jeff needs to start the next game as well as Tari. At least until Sengun earns it back. (I don't actually think that's what we should do but it would be interesting to make the finishing 5 of the last the starting 5 of the next.)
You are talking about how good everyone else is as a pathetic attempt to defend the worst player in the starting lineup. If you look at Jalen's on/off splits, the team takes a 12.7 point hit to their net ratings simply due to having Jalen on the court. No one on the team that has played more than 100 minutes is that detrimental to the team when on the court. If he simply wasn't on the team, the Rockets have more wins right now, he's been nothing but an anchor around the neck of the team overall. Also, this isn't the first time Jalen has been benched in the 4th so the team had a chance to win, isn't it 3 games in a row now? So not only do the stats not support you, the guys the coach plays at the end of games also disagrees with your cope.
No not yet, but they do need to start adding more Cam into the lineup to see what we have in him right now at the NBA level.
Yeah, this is true and there have been a few instances of "what the hell, Cam?" in the G-League games. Much of the time his decision-making has boiled down to "should I drive or should I take the 3" so far. He's made a few mistakes where he tries to drive and dunk on people instead of passing off or shooting, but some of that is to be expected based upon the type of player he is. It's still amazing his 3 pt shot is still hitting and from distance, too. Almost all his 3's are 2-3 feet behind the 3 pt. line.
I’m not doing anything “pathetic”. I’m just pointing out that Ime seems to agree with me. So f*ck off until he agrees with you, because you don’t **** about anything but bandwagoning.
Does he agree with you? Is that why your guy keeps getting benched in the 4th when the game is on the line? Like I said, I'm comfortable siding with the objective reality that literally every metric available supports over your gut feeling.
Ime is starting Jalen and playing him adequate minutes to see if he can get him “fixed”, because when he is on (which is not often so far) he is the perfect fit for this team. I don’t even object to him coming off the bench if you have another starting SG, but we don’t. Dillon is not a guard. Unless, Amen and Cam develop really fast or some team gives up something stupid for Jalen, he will be getting 20-30 mins every game the rest of the season and we will have to live with your “pathetic” rants the rest of the season.
Look, it's possible the Rockets will keep hurting their team by keeping this scrub in the starting lineup, especially if they give up on the season, but that's not an argument against him being terrible. Simping for absolutely terrible players when they are faced with legitimate criticism is just weird. In the end, we both hope that he'll eventually stop being terrible at basketball, me because I'm a Rockets fan, and you because you are a Jalen apologist. I guess we can build on that common ground, but when he continues to be absolutely terrible at basketball, I'm going to keep pointing it out, same as any player.
These threads are circular. Same people spouting same narratives. It’s weird to me. How many times can a poster (DD or Bobby) just repeat the same message without bringing any analysis? On the other side, some blindly defending Jalen do need to weigh the eye test. Green looks lost and timid. Confidence seems shaken. On top of this, his form on his jumpshot and drives to the rim is never consistent and there is so much extra movement that the degree of difficulty will never allow him to be efficient. He makes these nice moves but can rarely finish. His lift on his jumper is never consistent and he often drifts. I’d still wager that he ends up having a productive NBA career and (somewhat) flourishes a bit into his second contract. Not sure if that will be here. I doubt it. The answer remains the same. Give him more time. If a decent enough trade comes up, maybe you weigh that. Whitmore and Thompson need to be working toward being back court pillars of the post FVV future. Did we expect to hit on all 6 picks? I didn’t.
There are tons of Jalen apologists and Jalenonly fans on this board. I’m not one of them and to say I’m “simpin” for him means your Jalen hate has made it impossible for you to hear legit arguments and other points of views, like mine which is we have no logical replacement for him and the organization has not given up on him yet. I get more skeptical day to day that he will be good this year, but I see no reason to bail before 26 to see if he finally comes around with the great coaching we obviously have.
Let's just see if I can get you to agree with a few objectively true statements. Jalen is the worst performing player in the starting lineup. Jalen has harmed the team more by being on the court than any other player on the roster who has played at least 100 minutes. Don't conflate these statements with anything else, I just want to see if you are at least open to accepting reality by affirming that you agree these statements are true. I'm perfectly fine hearing other points of view provided those points of view are tethered to reality at least a little bit.
