I would call sacrificial lamb instead of scape goat. Again, most young players come off the bench to start their NBA Journey, Green never had to because he was handed starter minutes from Day 1. Udoka temporarily benching him was the 1st time in 2 and half years.
While I agreed with the Rocket's tanking approach, the lack of development or worse, bad development was always a negative to the approach. Is it concerning that Green is still pretty raw heading into his third season? Sure. Do I think Green is in a much better position under this new coaching staff to add greater skill to his twitchy, other worldly athleticism? Sure. I just need more time as it has only been one offseason and 17 games. Hopefully Green can become a Jamal Murray type player who can be a good to great Robin next to Sengun, maybe it will be worse. I still tend to think a positive outcome is still more likely but the clock is certainly running down. I think the Rockets will listen to offers, but feels way too early as he's still very much TBD for the Rocket's side and potential suitors. That's not to say a package won't happen, just seems very unlikely.
I pretty much feel like the team often wins in spite of Jalen. He's had multiple games with more turnovers than field goals made. One game of 30+ points. Five games of 10 or fewer points. We're 17 games into the season In 9 games he has shot .250 or less from distance when he averages almost 7 attempts per game from there. Here's a list of shooting percentages from the floor for individual games: .077 - 1 of 13 Win .200 - 2 of 10 .267 - 4 of 14 .300 - 3 of 10 .313 - 5 of 16 .357 - 5 of 14 .375 - 5 of 16 Win .389 - 7 of 18 Win .400 3 times - 2 losses to GSW and a win against Sacramento. 4 of the above losses were by 6 points or less. In games where Jalen has had 4 or more turnovers the team is 0-5, two of those by 6 points or less. Tough to win games when the guy taking the second most shots per game is shooting that bad. That's not scapegoating him, that's just facts. And that's just on the offensive end, we haven't even touched on how bad he is defensively - even if he has improved from putrid to just terrible.
Not fun to watch at all, which is why I exiled myself from watching during the Silas years. It’s not very hard to unlearn, but the player has to want to learn and must have the work ethic and will to win. Green not playing at least a year or two of college shows. Add that with the commercials and notoriety of being a star, when he is not. I keep telling his fan boys, just because he paint his nails and is on all the podcasts, that don’t mean he a star or a franchise level player. This rant comes after watching that boy Haliburton do work
The more brutal the tanking, the longer the rebuild/development time. Sengun is the only exception out there. Maybe his pro experience helped him or he worked harder, who knows. For the rest Green/Jabari/Tari you're going to have to wait the standard time. Can't screw these players up for one/two years and then ask Ime to catch up in 15 games. Give him like a third of a season at least. These young guys all had terrible fundamentals at game 1 of this season. The only way to develop is to build/ditch Habits. Doing that requires longer than a couple of weeks if the habit was frequently awarded. You'll see the staff's development results later in the season. Amen/Whitmore might take even longer than that. Keep your expectations in check.
he was better at attacking on the 1v1 level. That's it. Physical, mental, defensive, team aspects... he wasnt. Very narrowminded typical us look on the players. And then you have fat white guys dominating the league
KPJ was an above average, starting two guard, forced into playing the point....due to Jalen being the #2 pick, and us tanking. Unfortuantely, he couldn't hold it together. Between what happened with him, and JG's struggles, we took a big hit. It's a good thing we're loaded, as it appears Stone has hit on the rest of our important picks.
I think you are underrating Jabari's development. A 6'11 forward averaging about 14/8 who shoots well from 3 and has a defensive rating of 108? That guy starts for almost, if not every, team.
That’s the conundrum. Green won’t attract much right now and if he starts playing good we won’t want to trade him. Trading potential for potential seems pretty useless. Somebody tell me who this magical established high quality player we can trade Green for. The only one that is a remote possibility is Bridges and the Nets seem to be committed to riding the mediocre train and not dealing him.
He doesn't have enough value to be traded for Bridges. Hell if you told me Nets would want a straight up trade of Bridges for Green I'd probably think hard about it, Bridges is a beast. But Green doesn't have that much value that's all these trade proposals are kinda dumb. If you ask me the trade value of Green right now would probably be someone like Buddy Hield or Caris Levert. That's not very enticing and I'd rather keep Green till he either breaks out or busts.
Mikal is sort of a late to mid late bloomer.....he can still get better till he is 30, his mileage is low. Cam Thomas is more interesting.....his scoring limit.... Brooklyn has the potential to actually be better than just Play In, it all depends on if Cam Thomas and Bridges can continue to score at Will.
There are not a lot of trade scenarios that make sense for Green right now. We need a dynamic perimeter scorer obviously, but we aren't ready to win now even if we have one in hand. If Green develops consistency he may be that guy as he gets into his 20s and he matches the timeline with Sengun and Jabari. Someone like Lavine might be the fully realized version of Green and would help us a lot, but he will be exiting his prime soon. If Green doesn't look like he's going to be that guy by the end of the year I'd be fine packaging him and some picks for a more established player, but Sengun and Bari/Amen are still so young so it's tough to find a good match. Obviously if a top 10 guy in their early prime becomes available, you basically do whatever it takes.
Yes but he's not at his full potential yet. He'll be able to handle a higher volume of shots equally efficiently.
Kevin Martin. That's who Green reminds me of (offensively). It finally came to me. The next Kevin Martin.
