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Jalen Green is the Rockets' Franchise Player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by don grahamleone, Aug 10, 2023.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    1. I didn't say he was a "Rookie" I said he was learning a new position, Jalen has been a SG his entire career - get it right or GTFO. - I will no longer let you post here.

    ;)

    DD
     
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  2. flamingdts

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    This is your best counter argument? You can barely keep up with what you spew out.

    1. KPJ is "basically a 2nd year player". You are more than happy to discount entire seasons when it doesn't fit your narrative (or in this case, add a whole season).
    2. KPJ would have been a rookie in the 80s, at 22 years old (Green is 21).
    Maybe it's time to grow up DD. With the inconsistency that Green has played with this season, there are plenty of opportunities to make valid criticisms. Not sure why you insist on the path of intellectual and factual dishonesty, almost like you are obsessed with gaslighting.
     
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    If Jalen had done this in the 1st instead of the 3rd, we would've had a better chance this game. This game and the Grizzlies game he decided to "turn it on" later than necessary. This is ultimately the issue with him. I go back and forth on him like he goes back and forth on being All-NBA and an athletic scrub. That's the exhausting part about Jalen. At this point, I don't expect anything out of the kid. Sengun? 25/8/5 on good efficiency. Jabari? 16/9/2 on good efficiency. And so on. Jalen? Who the **** knows. That's a problem. He hasn't shown at any point in his career the ability to be consistent.

    He's like an inconsistent parent. Doesn't do **** for their kids and then suddenly takes them to Disney World or Nottsbery Farms to make up for it. Then goes right back to not doing ****.
     
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    I'm all for the best two players of the 21 draft class being Sengun and Green.
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    NEW POSITION - NEW POSITION - says it right there, Either you have a reading comprehension or you are just being obtuse.

    DD
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    Those stats for those two players are well above their averages lol so that would be above their expectations for now.

    Jabari has been more consistent but he's been more consistent at being a role player and his role allows for more consistency and the consistency is like 7 games also.

    Green has shown that type of consistency(7 games) but at much higher levels (25+ ppg on high efficiency for long stretches) than Jabari.


    Sengun has been the one young guy who consistently puts up all-star level numbers this season. Actually he's the only one on the team putting up consistency all-star numbers regardless of age as FVV also has been inconsistent in terms of offensive efficiency.
     
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    He look OK

    definitely got hit in the 3rd and that was nice to watch. Wish he would be playing that hard all game .
     
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    You mean like having a new coach, a new offensive scheme, new defensive approach, and a host of new teammates?

    Let me guess...
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    That is how peeps treat their side chick...no contact until the grand gesture of special dinner and suite reservation.

     
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    Look at JR’s advanced stats. They aren’t bad and they were just better than Jalen’s at this age.
     
  12. flamingdts

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    Did Harden play a new position when he was in Houston when he was officially labeled as PG?

    Or are you really this obtuse that you think giving a new position label to a player allows you to "reset" their years of experience?

    These are KPJ's per 36 numbers in Houston, which includes his 1 year with the "SG" label. Explain how the change from SG to PG has changed his play style?
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    Is he forgetting Wagner, Barnes, and Mobley? Even Suggs is coming around and having a better advanced stats year than Jalen.
     
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    What's a advanced stat?
     
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    I mean, he's technically correct. Jalen is averaging more points than Barnes, and more assists Wagner and Mobley. Suggs isn't comparable -- I like him, but he's averaging fewer points, assists, and rebounds than Jalen.
     
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    What's weird is that even with the wild inconsistencies of Green, as of today he's more efficient than Barnes and Wagner just slightly. Although Franz is trending up like crazy and Magic is looking like a contender
     
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    That’s why I’ve been saying during the past two seasons that let Green play PG and move KPJ to his natural SG position. Had they done that, Green’s handle and court vision would have been much improved by now. Instead, all those previous development time got wasted on the stupid KPJ experiment, which now goes down the drain with the woman beater.
     
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    I guess I do want to clarify that I think there is still good upside for Jalen, but the reality is he's going into his 4th pro year and he's still showing the same inconsistency that has been a negative during his career.

    That said one can argue this is actually his first year being under a legitimate coach and coaching staff and he's actually developing under their guidance.

    I don't want to come off as too much of a hater when comparing him to JR Smith either. JR Smith was a solid contributor who played almost 30 mpg on winning teams over a long career despite some of his knucklehead lapses. Jalen has natural talent to be better, but he's probably better suited in a 6th man role like JR Smith.
     
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    Counting a 16 game Covid shortened G league season as a full year of pro ball is crazy.
     
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