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Identifying the Rockets core

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 9, 2022.

  1. Easy

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    +/- in a single game has a lot of noise. One of the reasons could be that he played extended time with the second unit against the other team's second unit. As you can see our bench players had better +/- than the starters last night.

    That said, if a player who played 30+ minutes in a game and had positive +/-, that usually means that he was generally not the reason the team lost.
     
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    Ok bot.
    Ignore it is for you. What a pathetic human
     
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  3. OnlyRockets

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    Why would you say that? Just because I am sharing factual information?
     
  4. Scarface281

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    What in the hell
     
  5. hlmbasketball

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    Everybody has their opinions. I do agree, something is obviously off with him. Maybe he has to have the ball in his hands more, if that is what you are alluding to.

    However, you got to give Sengun credit for going at Lively and Jabari is really starting to come on.

    But in order for the TEAM to improve, they have to play team ball and Jalen has to adjust
     
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  6. OnlyRockets

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    The team is lacking effective ISO plays from their star player, JG. While he has the ability to single-handedly score in the fourth quarter, he is not permitted to save the franchise alone. Ime seems to favor inefficient clutch points from a foreign player, who may not be the ideal fit for the team.

    Perhaps Ime is not the right choice. If I have to choose between the two, I definitely prefer Jalen over Ime. Ime is easily replaceable.
     
  7. hlmbasketball

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    I think Sengun is solid. Im not saying he's a star but I think he's solid. I think the star will eventually be Jabari, Thompson or Whitmore. Jury is still out on Jalen.

    But we have to start giving Sengun props. He had 28 pts last night. I wish he can add more to his game in the way of 3pt shooting to spread the floor. And I think his lack of shot blocking ability showed last night too

    I think if he could do that, it would help Jalen tremendously
     
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  8. OnlyRockets

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    I believe that many of us have acknowledged the fact that Shenjiun engages in statpadding without producing any tangible benefits for the team. We are discussing a player incapable of blocking a single shot.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    The Jalen Green fans lost their last scapegoat, so now they are going after Sengun to blame all of Jalen's struggles on.

    It's just player only fans being player only fans.

    At least with the Sengun only fans, their guy is actually REALLY good.
     
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  10. OnlyRockets

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    How can you trust the deception propagated by SOFs? Where is the accurate information in that?

    If Jalen had been given the same opportunities as Sengun this season, he would have undoubtedly averaged 30 points per game.

    It's unfortunate that our fan base doesn't have a desire for him to be a 30-point scorer.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Jalen has taken more shots than any player on the roster....they've pushed this scrub since day one, he's just not very good at basketball.

    His TS% on the season is 54%....which means he hasn't shown any improvement when it comes to scoring efficiency since his rookie year....when the team was also pushing him ahead of anyone else.

    Right now if it wasn't for Jock Landale, the rookies, and Reggie Bullock, there would be an argument for Jalen as the worst player on the team....and that's despite a couple of good games from him.

    Look, I know you are a troll sock puppet account of some Jalen only fan who is too embarrassed to post ridiculous nonsense like this on main, but you really should be embarrassed to post it on a sock puppet.
     
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  12. hlmbasketball

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    To be fair, he did have some blocks last night. He had a really good chase down block.

    However, I think what you are saying is that he doesn't effect the opposing players/team as much from driving to the basket, changing the trajectory of their shots. I agree with that.

    But he can block shots!
     
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  13. invocux

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    There's nothing generational about Jalen.

    Athleticism: Athletic guards are dime a dozen. You can't make a difference by simply being athletic because everyone is athletic.
    Outside shooting: He has to be one of the worst outside shooters among starting shooting guards. He's streaky and doesn't have good shooting form.
    Physicality-size: He is short for his position and isn't strong enough to absorbe the contact and finish. That's why he misses his layups.
    BBIQ: Takes bad shots, attacks the rim even though the paint is packed. Subpar decision maker.
    Handles: Has mediocre handles and his small hands are not exactly helping him. He doesn't have total control on the ball.
    Passing: He's an okay passer.
    Defense: He improved a little but still is a bad on ball defender.
    Go to move: Still doesn't have any go to move. Doesn't have any signature move.
    Mental strength: He's fragile and unambitious.

    He excels at nothing.
     
  14. OnlyRockets

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    It is more important to intervene to change the direction of the ball than to chase blocks that have little effect and leave us defensively helpless.

    The rim protector would fervently block each ball in the paint without any hesitation. Can you imagine how many times Luka would get blocked last game? He would be powerless against a giant like Claxton.
     
  15. hlmbasketball

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    I think KPJ help hide a lot of Jalen's flaws. He was able to have more freedom, while KPJ took a lot upon his shoulders; playmaking and scoring. Jalen wasn't good at playmaking last yr and he isn't this yr. If you notice, the only playmaking he does is drop the ball off to Sengun on the pick and roll.

    Jalen does best when he is able to freelance. Now that there is structure, he is struggling. We have to give him time to adjust or go in a different direction
     
  16. OnlyRockets

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    Are you sure that you are not getting JALEN GREEN mixed up with Josh Green?

    Based on the eye test, all Jalen Green needs is more touches with the ball and freedom. If he's given the chance to be free, he will prove every fake narrative about him wrong.
     
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    didnt have to expose them like that
     
  19. hlmbasketball

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    Good question. Obviously, the game was lost because we couldn't effect the paint in the 4th Qtr but also a block at any point is effective too. So both.

    We definitely need a shot blocking presence in the paint but you have to play Jabari because he is able to stretch the floor but also, you have to play Sengun because he is able to facilitate.

    Ime is going to have to decide whats most important in the 4th Qtr and at what point.
     
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  20. invocux

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    You said he was a generational talent and i explained you why he isn't.
     

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