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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Faos, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. Faos

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    Where's Teresa been lately? The Kerry camp certainly put a muzzle on her. I was expecting a lot more out of her. :(
     
  2. CBrownFanClub

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    Laura was so bullseye on Stem Cell, who could blame Theresa 57 for going back to the drawing board...
     
  3. MadMax

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    Hold on...I have to open up a can of care first. ;) :D
     
  4. mc mark

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    Yes! Thank you so much Dr. Laura for your wonderful expertise and setting us all straight.
     
  5. Fegwu

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    This is sarcasm right?

    I am not sure.....just checking..
     
  6. CBrownFanClub

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    We should start a thread on Laura Bush's stem cell stance. She is blowing me away.

    I was totally offended by that interview with Larry King -- selling the notion that there is not a cure 'around the corner,' and proponents are misleading the public about its potential. And therefore, those who push for it are exploiting the ill, and we should not study it. And then smug ol' GWB going into a schpiel about promoting a "culture of life" by NOT pursuing Stem Cell, and the slippery slope human cloning? It just knocked me out to hear them say that. Pursuing a culture of life? How, by not-relieving sufferring? It made me feel very alienated from our society, honestly, that a U.S. President would say that with a straight face. And Larry King letting it slide brought on the familiar Larry King Sized Nausea, but I am fine with feeling alienated from Larry King.

    So Laura Bush, what exactly is the timeline you want? In your prolific career in medical research, where do you see the law of diminishing returns kicking in? I mean, I am surprised Fox gave Arrested Development another season, let alone the world having any sort of patience with a technique that could ease the sufferring of millions. Five years?!?! We'll all be dead by then!

    Sorry, Polio sufferrers, Dr. Salk is a little slow in delivering his cure, so we're going to go ahead and squelch that line of research if you don't mind. Don't let him fool you into believing he can help. He cant. By the way, his work is dangerously close to turning us into a species of clones which will turn this country into an Nightmare Society run by robots. Robots who survive by eating old people's medication.

    The Dems knockout blow should be stem cell in 2004. Screw swift boats, Haliburton, whatever else. On stem cell, the Bushies are so marvellously pandering to the Fearful Whacked -- aka their base - they should get nailed repeatedly for it. They deserve it. The comically thin arguments for their position on stem cell are low hanging fruit, and they are preventing serious progress to the human condition every day they are in office on this issue. If there was ever an issue to make undecideds hold their nose and vote for Kerry, this should be it.
     
  7. mc mark

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    AMEN!

    You should post more in the D&D CB
     
  8. Mulder

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    There are plenty stem cells in the umbilical cord.

    Babies are born, not aborted to harvest them.

    Install a better system for collecting the umbilical cords and you have both sides of the debate pleased.

    Why is this not discussed more? :confused:

    The fear of the pro-lifers is that more abortions will be recommended or deemed medically necessary to provide for the needed stem cells if it is publically funded.

    I for one find no reason to publically fund more abortion for the stem cell research needs.

    Just "harvest" the cords of the born. Not the lives of the unborn, please.

    There is a way.
     
  10. GladiatoRowdy

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    There is also a way with the millions of frozen embryos that will otherwise simply be discarded. That is the choice, throw the embryos in the trash or use them to cure disease.
     
  11. MadMax

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    yeah, i've been wondering about this,t too. my wife is pregnant and we get tons of pamphlets about companies that will retrieve your child's umbilical cord and store it for years, because the stem cells can be saved and are likely more useful for the child who was once connected to the cord and his family than they would be for the public, at large.

    i don't think we should be discouraging this research...but even the guy at the cord bank who i spoke with said, "listen..we're not there yet." i've heard doctor after doctor confirm what laura bush said...that we're being somewhat misled by the progress...as if we know this will get the job done...and we know that it's coming very soon. neither of those statements is true...but that's certainly what we've been told..what we've been led to believe. again...i don't think because some have been misleading that we should stop this research, particularly from cord blood...but she's not incorrect when she says what she said.
     
  12. SWTsig

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    she may not be incorrect when she says that, but she is being irrational. that entire thought process is bewildering to say the least.

    we have an opportunity to help millions of lives through further research, yet they oppose it for reasons that aren't even relevant to begin with. it's the people they're catering to that are being misled....

    it's a shame.
     
  13. MadMax

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    did laura bush say she opposed it??? i honestly didn't hear the interview.
     

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