How can the best Rocket ever, the heart and soul for the team for the last 2 decades and still a top 5 center in the NBA, get a LOWER OFFER THAN SHANDON ANDERSON???? The writing is on the wall that Anderson is going to get a very sizable contract. The team only budgeted $4 M a year to Hakeem for 2 years, which means that Shandon and Mo Taylor are going to eat up the Rockets cap space, along with Moochie Norris. What an insulting way to end your career in Houston: To receive a lower offer per year than Shandon "I can't hit a jumper to save my life or dribble a basketball" Anderson. As if being offered half of what Kelvin Cato makes wasn't bad enough. As the Freak said, players like Hakeem are once in a lifetime. 2 years from now, Anderson will be a mediocre to poor bench player commanding a $5 M a year salary and Hakeem will play his last game in a uniform other than a Rockets one. All to give a undeserving bust of a FA pickup money which he is NOT WORTH. What a sad shame. Good luck wherever you Hakeem, you've earned it, unlike Shandon. ------------------ Get Cato out of there...
Oh please, answer me this, would you have been willing to lose Mo, Shandon, and trade a few players just to keep Hakeem? Because that is what it would have come to. It's funny how people blame Houston management, blame the fans, blame Mo, blame Shandon, but they NEVER blame Hakeem. He is the man who wanted to keep the together, and when given the chance to do so he complained about money. Ask Dream why he wanted to have his cake and eat it to. ------------------ What if I say to you that the universe is a three-legged horse, eh? What then? - Russell Hoban [This message has been edited by RocksMillenium (edited July 31, 2001).]
because hakeem the @#*! only plays a handful of games a year.. ------------------ i just wasted a couple seconds of your life while u read my post...this one is a bonus...
Hakeem has wanted out since moment one fo Free Agency. All that mattered was looking good doing it. ------------------ The time for logic and reason has come and gone. It's homer time now. Believe.
Now we're blaming other players for Dream leaving... Now thats sad.... This is business and thats all it is obviously... I can understand Dream can't like getting paid less than Robinson, Cato and a few other mediocre centers but Rockets have to look at the big picture not the next 2 seasons. Do what Dream said early on...keep this nucleus together(granted he probably meant him also but can't keep everyone). This team with out a doubt is Stevie Franchise's team now...... ------------------
"Oh please, answer me this, would you have been willing to lose Mo, Shandon, and trade a few players just to keep Hakeem? Because that is what it would have come to. " -No, it wouldn't have. Keep in mind the Rockets only offered Hakeem a contract paying him $4.1 M for 2 years, then tacked on the third year. The only guy who had to go was Shandon. Since they had the bird rights on Moochie and Bullard, they can exceed the cap to pay them, which means that Hakeem and Mo had to share the Rockets cap space (~$16 MIL). You tell me honestly who is worth more: Shandon or Hakeem, to me that's a NO BRAINER. Regardless of what Hakeem does, committing long term money to an underachieving, overrated below average player like Shandon Anderson is a questionable, if not crazy move. ------------------ Get Cato out of there...
Cato=Bum- Do you really think Fegan would let them renounce SHANDON to get Dream his money? Conflict of interest, no? Same with Mooch. Fegan wanted/wants Mo to be the one to go. Ticking off Falk is a bad idea, and Mo clicks on this team on offense, Shandon gets waved off. So, it comes to-Mo who fits like a puzzle piece onto this team, and could sign a 6 year deal and be barely 30 when it's done, AS WELL AS having a large amount of cap for next year or this year. OR Dream for anywhere from 1-3 more years, asking for touches. The past, or the present/future. Do you want Dream for 2 years, or Mo for the rest of his career, with cap room to spare this year or next? If it was as simple as Shandon, this would be done July 18. ------------------ "Larry Johnson, who spent the last 48 hours railing against the world, what a pathetic performance by this sad human being." -The one and only Bill Walton
Dream seemed to be asking for about 10 million dollars, it would have probably taken more then cutting Shandon Anderson loose to sign Dream. Besides, it seemed obvious Dream didn't have a lot of interest in staying, his agent is already spinning a story. ------------------ What if I say to you that the universe is a three-legged horse, eh? What then? - Russell Hoban
Look, Dream IS worth 10 million in today's market, but unfortunatly not to the Rockets. If Dream can get more money elsewhere, and he feels he has a better chance at a ring, then Sayanara, big guy. DaDakota ------------------ If you like RTS games, check out this one. www.frontierwars.com coming soon to a PC near you.
I agree with Bum. If we didn't make that promise to SA a few years ago, Dream would be signed. We are only offering Dream 4.5 mill a year. If SA would sign for the early bird then we would have 16 million to split between Mo and Dream. We then could have easily given Dream around 8 mill a year for two years and still sign everyone else with their bird rights. I understand why the rockets are doing it, but it still pisses me off. ------------------
You're right NIKE, I completely forgot Fegan represented him. With Dream already set, Shandon is the one looking for a big (at least big for him) contract. Backstabbing one of his clients to help another is a no-no, no matter WHAT people think of the player. ------------------ What if I say to you that the universe is a three-legged horse, eh? What then? - Russell Hoban
Even if Hakeem is gone, NO WAY THE ROCKETS GIVE SHANDON a 5 MILLION + contract over multiple years . If they have to choose between left over garbage (S&T) and renouncing Hakeem, do you really think they will go reward Feagans other clients (Anderson & Mooch). I would love Mooch to come back (for a minimal price) and Anderson I just can't see the justification on giving him more than he opted out for???? Why would you pay more than 3 million a year for a future bench player (on the Rockets). That would be just as stupid as Catos contract (giving over 5 million annually). You know its a matter of principle. Scr**** Fegan!! Can Anderson & Mooch fire Fegan? damn that would make my day, and the Rockets!!!! ------------------
If the Rockets were weak enough to let a stupid agent like Fegan,and a role player like Shanndon force their hand,then they need their ass kicked!They know dream's phone number and this is really the first time he's used an agent since the consultant of Len Armato.All they had to do is say "hakeem,we'll give you 8 mill per for 2 years and you can retire as a rocket." I can almost guarantee Hakeem would have said to the hell with Fegan.If Fegan wanted to take Anderson and Norris along with him,so be it.The Rockets had a nice little back up in summer league named Sean Colson who probably is cheaper.With all that said and done,if they lose dream and get Marc Jackson,I can live with that. ------------------ everett
Sean Colson is not a point guard. Moochie is infinetly more skilled than him, please, don't suggest that the One-arm Bandit would be an acceptable back-up. Hell, he wasn't even the best guard on our Summer League team. And Dream isn't worth 8 million per year. ------------------ The time for logic and reason has come and gone. It's homer time now. Believe.
Because Shandon is almost guaranteed to play 82 games for the next 5 seasons while Dream hasn't played over 50 games since Bush Sr's administration. Also, SA seems willing to fit in to the offense and not demand the ball. We paid Hakeem 30 million bucks for 100 games the last 2 years, so I think he's been "compensated" enough. He's a 38 year old man playing a GAME. If he thinks he has it rough in life, try being a 25 year old waitess with two kids. ------------------ "norm, would you like to buy an indian scalp ? This deal isn't gonna make or break me Norm, so don't jerk me around." Harry Carey "Norm, if I had a mohawk scalp, I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you."
Ask yourselves this: Is Hakeem a better (more productive) player today than Charles Barkley was when he humbly signed for one million dollars.? If I remember correctly Charles was one of the only players holding this team together while Hakeem sat on the bench, or didn't even show up, because of one of a series of injuries that have plagued him since 95. Honestly Dream is a great player but he had two great seasons and he isn't worth the money. ------------------ Keep Ya Head Up!
Bingo, thats a question I've asked myself a long while back.... Dream and Barkley are in 2 similiar but different situations... Barkley wanted very badly to win A RING.... Dream wants another chance at a ring.... Barkley took the paycut for that guy Pippen... Dream won't take a paycut...at least not a big one... What I'm saying is this Dream wants the money and chance to win another championship but Barkley only wanted A RING.... The question I have for everyone is why didn't Dream already pull the sign and trade deal that was on the table by Toronto??? I'm thinking Fegan/Dream are waiting to see if Houston will renounce him... Reason being that maybe they don't want to give Houston any compensation for Dream leaving.... Why didn't he already sign with Toronto??? and NO I don't think its b/c he is having second thoughts.... ------------------
I'll put it simply.. If Hakeem wasn't worth more than 6million, then Toronto would just sign Marc jackson.... They know what a steal they'd be getting at 5-6M per year for a C these days... ------------------
"Because Shandon is almost guaranteed to play 82 games for the next 5 seasons while Dream hasn't played over 50 games since Bush Sr's administration." 1) In 99, Hakeem may have only played 50 games, but that's because it was a 50 game season. He didn't miss a game, reg.season or playoffs. That was just 2 years ago. 2) Shandon Anderson may indeed play 82 games, but he won't do squat to help your team in those 82 games. He's one of the worst ballhandling Guards in the NBA, and does just NOT FIT IN to the Rockets team. His inability to hit from long range or handle the rock make him an utter offensive liability. Even if Hakeem plays 10 games a year, he adds more to the team than Shandon does in 82 of his worthless performances. ------------------ Get Cato out of there...
I agree with Cato = Bum 100 %. I think the Rockets are making a HUGE mistake by letting Dream go just for the sake of fulfilling a promise to Shandon. Two mistakes like giving Cato so much money that it is almost impossible to trade the guy and, I assume, giving Shandon 4, 5 million dollars a year for 7 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists can DOOM a franchise. The Rockets have a big problem right now because they have to decide between being loyal to Hakeem or to Shandon - ironically, both are represented by the same piece of "%!"%. The Rockets should be loyal to Hakeem, it would be much better for their future. They should let Shandon go. He had his chance to prove himself, but he hasn't. So I would think the Rockets are not bound to any promise they might have made in the past. I cannot imagine they promised him a particular contract size two years ago, no matter how he would perform. ------------------ This signature has been shortened due to popular demand .
