First of all, it's not the same thing. Someone can objectively be depressed, it can be clinically diagnosed. Gender dysphoria can also be clinically diagnosed. But a biological man cannot objectively be a woman. Secondly, nobody "runs around telling trans people" anything about their gender. The pressure comes from the other direction - being branded a bigot or whatever for simply calling someone what they objectively are, being forced to pretend there are 72 genders, being forced to deal with complicated pronouns to entertain someone else's subjective perceived reality, etc. etc. This over the top stuff naturally elicits counter-reactions. Deal with it.
Its seems like its really just a bunch of losers who end up with **** lives, and can't justify it, so they need to seek blame. These folks are the easiest to brainwash with propaganda and get targeted. Some of the woke stuff is absolutely weird. There are non gay / trans people that do weird **** as well. I care about the weird woke stuff just about as much as what man from Florida is doing.
Did you or anyone really think that was funny? Geeez. I don't care if I agree or disagree with your politics, but that was awful and so unfunny, it causes pain.
Yeah, anecdotal datum, but here goes: intense family conference call a few days ago (in-laws). My wife's most troubled cousin (and adopted kid, long ago, now middle-aged, after three marriages, two kids, no job, no career) has become a delusional MAGA dude. He blames everything on a biased system and says that due to wokeness, "nobody will hire a white man." LOL. ORLY? He's now a big time Trumper. It was the perfect fit, because for about 50 years, this loser has never been able to accept any responsibility for anything. Every divorce a woman's fault. Every time he's fired, it's the employers fault. Everytime he ruins a family reunion, it's everyone else's fault. He's now wheedling money out of his now-demented father (my uncle-in-law), and the emergency family meeting is trying to get power of attorney for said uncle before his coffers are fully emptied by the delusioned Trumper. Sad, sad business. I'm sure many of you have similar stories. Whatever y'all think of this cult, from whatever side, it's hurting a lot of people, exploiting a lot of weak, hopeless people. Trump has always preyed on such people. It's like, instead of MAGA, it's like "Make people infants again," crying and blaming the external world for all their problems, trusting in one person to fix everything. Sad, I tell you.
Nobody runs around telling trans people about their gender? Right in this thread you and others are telling people what their genders are. I’ve seen it first hand people telling trans people to their face what they think their genders should be. Every trans person that I know has a similar story including a poster that was here on clutchfans. also I will point out again Trans people only make up 0.6% of the US population. The overtop obsession about trans people seems to be more about others upset about “wokism” on social media than the actual affect that trans people actually have in society.
I have an opinion on it which I state on an anonymous forum. That is very different from intentionally being hurtful to someone who, as I understand it, subjectively feels a certain way (I don't do that.). My opinion is that people should not be forced to play along to accommodate someone's individual reality distortion. That doesn't mean I go out of my way in real life to shove that opinion into the face of an individual who suffers from that type of mental illness. I can also see when someone is objectively obese; doesn't mean I go and say it to them. But I also don't want to be forced to call them skinny or beautiful, even if they think they are. I just let people be. But objective facts are objective facts.
I agree there are certainly LGBTQ people who do stuff that is in your face or frankly just not well thought out. There are certainly people who would be classified as social Justice warriors. For every group there are people who take things too far and social media just encourages that. For all of us I suspect that we don’t encounter much of that stuff on a daily basis. If any. Instead if you spend much of your time just doom scrolling social media and continue to focus on tweets and accounts that focus on those things you’re going to get a vey skewed view. We see it here with threads just dominated by repost of tweets just portraying the worst of one side. Further for people here who have families, successful careers, and lives filled with travel to be obsessed with what trans people are doing or college students protesting for Palestinians it really makes me wonder how great are your lives? I’m an owner of a small business. I’m doing OK but I’m not a big success dining with industrialists or World leaders. I’ve been very fortunate to be able to travel a lot and spend Time with family in other countries. I’m very concerned about many things in this world but I don’t have the time or the interests to obsess over what a small part of the population and a group that largely doesn’t have much political power and other than people I actually know little affect in my life. There are a lot of the other things that have more bearing on my life than a trans person asking me to refer to them by their pronoun of choice, whether Disney has a black mermaid, or that someone got mugged in Oakland. I Suspect even the posters that obsess In such things those have little bearing on their daily lives also.
Objective in culture, language or personal identity isn’t as clear cut. In fact pronouns are a construct of language. In spoken Mandarin the gender pronoun for a person is the same. Even English has non gendered pronouns. As far as personal identity people all the time construct their own identities regardless of what facts there might be. For example I’ve lived in Minnesota now actually longer than I lived in Texas yet I identify as a Texan even though objectively I’m a Minnesotan by time, official records and tax status. if I recall you are mixed race. Half of your background is not originally from Germany yet you identify as a German. One of my former Judo students is also mixed with a German father and Vietnamese mother. He grew up in Munich and moved back there after school even though he did get US citizenship. He identifies as German and even while he was in the US he wanted to be called German and all of us treated him as German even though he doesn’t look very much like an ethnic German. That said if he wanted to identify as Vietnamese or as an American that would be fine. We wouldn’t think more or less of him for it. The point is whether someone born as a biological male or female and decides that their identity is the other gender doesn’t really affect much calling someone by their pronoun of choice isn’t the end of the world or really worth how much time and angst is spent on it.
What's ironic about this is that most posters allow the reality distortion of the far right on here and let them be. They claim that they want to stick to facts ("gender is a fact") but when facts are brought in that contradict their reality, they find rationalizations to dismiss them. We see this with the vaccine, the election/voting system, Ukraine, and most recently the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The madness of the posts and amount of complete distortion of reality could very well be deemed a mental illness. Yet they are still for the most part accepted as they are, and most of us go along with it. We know they are batshit crazy, yet we don't go around telling them that. You see how easily triggered they are to resort to insulting those they disagree with because of their inability to see a different perspective or even consider they are wrong, yet they often project that others are intolerant and are being delusional!
