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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. astros123

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    So you are saying to be safe from reprisal, Hamas should just base out of hospitals and launch there attacks from that location? That's what they have been doing (and your response is the exact reason why). Once a hospital is being used as a military installation and rocket launch site, it ceases to be a protected location and becomes a valid military target. If the people actually using it as a hospital wanted it to be free from attack, they should have kept Hamas out of it.
    Yes. This actually happens. Police engage with hostage takers and sometimes hostages are killed. The family of the hostages are not then allowed to attack the police department. The best they can do is sue for financial compensation. Even then, the police are often found to have immunity. Locally (to me) there was a bank robbery that resulted in three robbers fleeing with three hostages pursued by nearly every law enforcement officer for miles around. There was a massive shootout with hundreds of rounds fired and one of the hostages was killed by police gunfire. 2014 Stockton bank robbery - Wikipedia
     
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    Don't trust any of these numbers.
     
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    PFFFFt. there is no suing the Israel government for killing innocent folks in their quest to hunt terrorists. Like i asked, do you accept the justification of Israel actions if they killed your family members due to collateral damage in hunting Hamas?

    Israel does not care about the hostages if they did they would have cared more about the collateral damage and death they inflicted upon the palestine people.
     
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    They freed one today.
     
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    they "donate" directly for weapons
     
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    Is that because of the long history of Save the Children doing publicity for terrorist murderers of children?

    Or is there another reason?
     
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    1. Hospitals aren't in a position to keep Iranian backed terrorists out.

    2. Police recklessness and disregard for civilian casualties is against their policy, and there can be action taken in those cases.
     
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    Because any of these numbers come from the "Ministry of Health" in Gaza = Hamas.

    You know, the people who just murdered over 1,000 innocent civilians in Israel.
     
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    Is that where Save the Children got the numbers?
     
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    Where do you think they got them?
     
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    I said yes, it was right there in the post you quoted. You cannot allow taking hostages to prevent action, it only encourages taking more hostages. If you don't bomb the enemy when they are in a hospital, they will set up in a hospital. Whatever magic talisman you declare makes the enemy safe from attack, of course they will use it to prevent you from attacking them while they attack you with impunity. It doesn't require a military genius to figure that out. It's why the prohibition of attacking civilians or hospitals makes an exception when they are being used by the military as a safe harbor.
    Of course they are. If Hamas tries moving into the hospital, tell them to stay out. If they refuse to stay out, stop operating that as a hospital and inform the IDF that this is now a Hamas base, then move to a new location where Hamas is not operating. Continuing to operate as a hospital when you know that Hamas has set up shop inside is putting people in harm's way.
    Letting the bad guys get away because they have hostages is against policy. Pursuing and defeating them is within policy. The city might pay out the families because they feel bad for them, but the officers aren't being charged with murder for killing the hostage.
     
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    Wow a bunch of dudes here saying bomb the crap out of a hospital. You people are wild, we are entering a new world order where people really don't care about anything except for what their feed tells them is right. No matter how hard we try to claim as being more advanced as a society, we are all savages. If the electricity, food, and water goes out tomorrow we will resort to immediate madness within days. I think social media has identified how backwards society really is and how society is really upheld by a thread which can easily be cut and manipulated. I hope our tech companies can clean up social media so the masses can be better programmed.

    I would not want to see the leaders of Saudi, Russia, China, etc ever be the leaders in world power. Not because they are all evil as you are probably told they are, but because their values they present are just not good at all for the world. What makes the West great for the planet is that the packaging is way way way better for the masses, not that either side is more humane or good. Both have done immense harm. Point is we need our societal values to always be packaged well, it's just not happening right now as too many folks are slaves to their feeds and tribal beyond thought. The masses are too stupid to think for themselves, again programming of these folks is badly needed to ensure madness is kept at bay.
     
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    Do these liberal Democrat Jews for peace know that Hamas shot an Israeli husband, raped his wife and kept her alive so she can watch, hear and smell her baby being baked in the oven? What the F is wrong with you? Wake the F up. There are evils out there that would want to vaporize you all.
     
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    Sometimes it makes me wonder about these countries starting with the USA that keep pumping money into Palestine for humanitarian aid. Are they really that naive or behind the scenes, they want to keep Hamas in business?
     
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    I don't know. Do you?
     
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    Closing down a hospital would harm or even end the life of its patients.
     

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