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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Nothing from either Hamas or IDF, thus far proves one way or the other whose weapons hit that hospital. We may never know.

    But if it was IDF, that doesn't make Hamas any less of a terrorist entity that needs to go. If it was Hamas that doesn't make IDF any less dicks for their multitude of issues.
     
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  2. MadMax

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    I like this line of thinking because I can’t imagine that front happening at the same time we have Ukraine and the Middle East on fire
     
  3. davidio840

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    It’s the opportune time to do it though. @astros123 is right about China having enough empty apartments to house all of their population and much much more. I’ve been all up and down the Eastern coast of China and it’s amazing how many high rises are built in sections in freaking nowhere.

    There could be 30-50 of them randomly. All built up and nothing but a concrete shell of a building. When a country like China subsidizes everything to inflate their currency they have nothing to lose eventually. That’s scary.

    Not sure if you’ve ever been to Shanghai or any other major city in China, but they have massive malls like every 20 blocks. Imagine 20ish Galleria size malls in the same landmass Katy occupies.

    In any event, hopefully diplomacy is achieved before more chaos ensues.
     
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  4. Air Langhi

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    They can just print their own currency. They are like the US now. They are the top dog. They can make their own rules. They also actually make things.
     
  5. astros123

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    The funny thing is 99% of americans have no idea that China doesn't really make anything. All of their critical tech and infrastructure comes from Taiwan and West. The only thing they make are the very basic fabs. They rely on the west for everything else tech based. They can't just "print" more money as nobody is willing to hold yuan in the same way folks hold the dollar. You have no money how m2 supply works.

    China could not survive for 30 days without imports coming in. They import majority of their food and energy to breathe. 80% of their food comes through the Malacca straight which is now under range with the new us air bases in Phillipines.

    China isn't doing ****
     
  6. StupidMoniker

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    You think the fact that people can travel to other countries and choose to return, spend their time in high end salons and boutiques, and dine at fine restaurants and fancy hotels is non-responsive to the claim that Gaza is an open-air prison?
    Because they don't need to leave, they can win militarily. Most of the time, life in Israel is pretty good. I have been, it is nice. Why would they leave? No one is claiming Israel is an open-air prison. It would be incredibly helpful for the Arabs to leave Gaza. It would be the one thing that would end the problem.
    Great. Where is the Hamas military target that Israel can attack so they won't cause collateral damage?
    Can you show a spot on google maps or something that has the Hamas military targets Israel can shell without hitting any civilians? Thanks. Like for the US you could show Fort Bragg or Camp Lejune, for example.
     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    You didn’t address his points and pretty much proved his point. To act like the Israeli govt , under Netanyahu specifically hasnt committed atrocities is pretty dumb headed. Hamas is evil. That doesn’t make wrongs by Israel mutually exclusive events. The inhuman talk from all these far right Israelis and us senators is kind of disgusting to be quite honest. You can be in support of a response as is justified here and still be critical. The latter is being censored like speech I’ve never seen before. It’s also why you can’t bring up continued settlements or other inhumane acts like cutting off food, water, electricity to a population of 2 million. Tim cotton said the rubble can bounce for all he cares. Multiple prominent American jewish elite have conflated any mention of a Palestinian homeland with anti semetism

    Also Hiroshima etc are ridiculous comparisons (what I keep seeing on Twitter, and if I have to explain why a United japan bombing Pearl Harbor and allying with nazi germany fighting the most grotesque battles in the pacific over the course of multiple years neck in neck , then being asked to surrender multiple times —-then led to the elimination of mass civilian casualties; nook is again right …the far right pro Israeli corner is engaging in some dangerous ideology)
     
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    That's caused by Palestinian leadership.
     
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    A lot of that fanaticism is now present in the West as well, thanks to misguided immigration policies.

    @Nook, have you ever been to Israel?
     
  10. LosPollosHermanos

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    You didn’t address his points and pretty much proved his point. To act like the Israeli govt , under Netanyahu specifically hasnt committed atrocities is pretty dumb headed. Hamas is evil. That doesn’t make wrongs by Israel mutually exclusive events. The inhuman talk from all these far right Israelis and us senators is kind of disgusting to be quite honest. You can be in support of a response as is justified here and still be critical. The latter is being censored like speech I’ve never seen before

    Tim cotton came out and said the rubble could bounce for all he cares. Seeing a lot of similar statements. If you follow the US military over its course it’s never resorted to such characterizations but somehow we care more about a land far away than even our homeland. The residents of Mauii are crying right now
     
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  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    My money is on Hamas. Remember they are supplied by doofus Iran, the same country that blew up their own civilian plane on accident too
     
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    If what the israeli evidence that they showed to biden was super legit I don't think the NSC would respond with this......

    This sounds more like USA knows israelis did it and they can't say it...
     
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    lol this dude wtf

    I don't think the Saudis give a crap about the Palestinians.



    And I don't think any of the other Arabs do either.

    They are just united in hating Jews, but not in loving Palestinians.
     
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  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    the arabs use palestinian people as pawns. This guy is like pretty much every Saudi unfortunately. I lived there for a bit, they paid my old man 10x (their own people were too stupid to learn any trade or craft so they paid people all over the world). I still remember their hatred towards anyone that wasn't saudi (even other arabs). They had to build walls around the places we lived because of fear of attacks.

    I wouldn't go there for a 8 figures, outside of NK its probably the worst country with the worst people out there
     
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    The hospital is still standing lol.. it hit the parking lot
     
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    Oct 12: Israel ordered the hospital to be evacuated.

    Oct 14: The same hospital was fired at with small rockets Saturday night as a warning for them to evacuate.
    https://www.anglicannews.org/news/2...sraeli-rocket-fire-as-conflict-continues.aspx

    Oct 17: Apparently, the hospital did not heed the warning.
    https://thewire.in/world/days-befor...srael-had-fired-rocket-ordered-its-evacuation

    There's nothing to disprove in this chronology of events. No Assumptions. Occam's Razor.
     
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    Gaza is extremely dense and Hamas uses human shields. So, it's hard. But being hard isn't an excuse for ignoring international laws, or failing to try to abide by them. That being said, it doesn't matter legally. It only matters politically. Israel doesn't do itself any favors if it doesn't hold itself to a higher standard.
     
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    Israel has always been a terror state, and will always be a terror state.

    If you don't believe me, believe Israel.

     
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    You can’t be this naive right? You fell right into their propaganda that Israel must hold itself to a higher standard and in the meantime they use babies as human shields for their weapon. Do you ask Hamas, Hezbollah or any Jihadi to follow international laws or abide by them? My head hurts reading your opinion! Thank God Israel does not listen nor care about others’ opinions anymore due to the active political campaign and disinformation of its enemies. Israel is doing everything to fight for their survival, if they want to take Israel out, might as well go out with a ferocious fight instead of laying down like a little b****.
     

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