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Do the Rockets win any championships if we play the Sonics in 94’ or 95’ playoffs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by GRENDEL, Aug 18, 2004.

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Do the Rockets win their championships if they face the Sonics in the playoffs?

  1. Yes, the Rockets of 94’ and 95’ were teams of destiny

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    73.7%
  2. No, the Sonics would have knocked us out like they did in 96’

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    26.3%
  1. GRENDEL

    GRENDEL Member

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    I don’t know what I was watching but they show the Denver Nuggets upsetting the Sonics in 94’.

    Both championship years we didn’t play the Sonics. However, from my memory, they had our number like no other team I could think of for those couple of years.

    Do you guys think we would have won had we played them in the second round of the playoffs in 94’?

    Second question, if we didn’t win in 94’ do you think the trade that brought Cydle would still have happened?

    Just have always wondered about this and what other people thought. In 96’ we met up with them finally and they knocked us out of the playoffs.

    Personally, I hope destiny would have taken us over any teams we would have faced
     
  2. snowmt01

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    We might lose the 1994 one. Illegal defense(or zone) is lethal to one-man teams.
     
  3. dharocks

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    '94 no, '95 yes.

    The Sonic's 93-94 team was easily the best they had in the Payton-Kemp era. They just matched up terribly with Denver (though they cruised through games 1 and 2). That team had, effectively, 8 starters - Payton, Kemp, Gill, Perkins, Pierce, Cage, McMillan, and Schrempf. They weren't quite as good the next year, and we had a team of destiny in '95. Clyde definately would have helped out. I think one of Payton's fingers was broken in the '95 playoffs, too.

    It could be argued, however, that our 94 Finals Team was one of the worst Championship Teams in NBA History.
     
  4. TIburon

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    I know most will argue that I'm wrong but this is what I've been saying for a long time...

    Every team has a opponent that gave them fits and the Sonics were ours...

    We didn't even win more than 2 games against them every year...

    Yeah, I do think the Sonics were never called for all their illegal defenses but that doesn't change the fact that if we had played them we would have lost...

    Its just the truth but thank goodness Denver and someone else upsetted them in '94 and '95...

    They had our number BAD...

    No one should get pissed about this b/c it doesn't change the fact that we have 2 ships but to realize that Sonics being out really helped Houston....
     
  5. heypartner

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    1993 we barely got beat by Sonics ... OT in the 7th game.

    ...then we added Sam Cassell and Mario Elie to the team.
     
  6. dharocks

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    And, if you recall, they replaced an aging Eddie Johnson and Derrick McKey with Detlef Schrempf and Kendall Gill
     
  7. tbowman

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    Sorry guys, I'm a loyal fan, but we would have been out both years I think. They had our number, and to be a back to back champs getting swept out by them the next year really proved it.

    That's why we traded our whole damn team for Chuck. Just to Beat Seattle. He had good games against them in PHX, so I guess Rudy or CD just decided that's the way we needed to go.

    I was very upset, but SEATTLE is the whole reason there's no more Sam Cassell or Robert Horry in H-town these days (assuming they would have resigned when the time was right).

    Rudy knew the team couldn't beat Seattle as is, that's why the trade happend, and that's why I think we would have been screwed had we played them in those earlier years.

    We might have made a big trade earlier had we played them in 94 or 95.
     
  8. GRENDEL

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    So you think that if we didn’t win the championship we still would have gone after Clyde?

    I’ve always thought they brought him in to have a chance at that second ring, since our team was a horrid funk, but if there was never a first then I don’t think they would have pursued Drexler.
     
  9. dharocks

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    Oh, I have no idea about any of that. I just think that the team, as it was composed in the 95 playoffs, would have beaten the Sonics with the momentum we had built up. If the Sonics had beaten the Lakers and then beat the Spurs, I think we could have taken them in the WCFs.

    That said, I don't think the Sonics would have beaten the Spurs.
     
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  10. MadMax

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    hell yes.

    maybe not 94...but no one was stopping this team in the playoffs of 95. they were outmatched on paper in every series...they played on the road throughout...none of it mattered. the whole was greater than the sum of the parts.

    probably the most inspiring team effort in pro sports i've ever witnessed.
     
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    Both years?
     
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    No, Rudy T would have found a way, For sure
     
  14. Willis25

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    you forgot...

    C - Get over the Sonic's teams from the mid-90's (they had no big man or shooting guard)

    D - Just turn the page
     
  15. JBIIRockets

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    wow, yes is winning 41-16. I'm a little surprised by this.

    I bleed Rocket red but I said no. They swept us in 1995, and beat us twice when we had Drexler. The Rockets were basically the same team in 1996, when Seattle tore the Rockets up in the playoffs. IMO, there was no reason to believe we could beat them either year. But I think the 93-94 Rockets had a better chance than the 2nd championship team did.

    The Rockets had a better chance of beating the Bulls than those Sonics teams.
     
  16. dharocks

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    Kemp was 6'10", 240, and a legit rebounder/shotblocker. Because they didn't have a traditional C, I'll agree with you to a certain extent.

    But Ricky Pierce and Kendall Gill were both very good players back in the day. Not to mention Nate McMillan. To say that the Sonics had no shooting guard is ridiculous.
     
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    we need to remember those things :( :confused: :( :eek:

    come on

    i love when Drexler threw the fade away jumper to eliminate him that was sweet
     
  18. shsu33

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    Wow, this is a nice little arguement and all but all I can say is PROVE IT! There are many poeple that think the Bulls would have won 8 straight if Jordan didn't retire but they can't prove it. It's just too bad that Sonics and Jazz fans can only argue that they were the best team in the 90's that never won the championship. The Rockets will be remembered for winning 2 straight.

    Plus, I watched game 7 in '93 and watched it again on ESPN classic and if the refs hadn't screwed up some calls late in the 4th it would have never even gone into overtime and the Rockets would have won. With that said. PROVE IT, says the Seattle fan. I can't that's why looking back on things that could have been blows. I would rather just remember the positives of the past and concentrate on the present and future.
     
  19. mateo

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    I watched the Sonics lose to the Nugs from a crappy hotel bar in Chengdu, China....and I jumped up and down like a maniac, probably scaring a few of the other patrons. I knew at that point we were going to the Finals.
     
  20. xiki

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    It was Kismet...and the Kiss o' Death.

    Rox back-to-back.

    Why question the destiny, the dream -- the Dream?
     

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