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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Step away from the keyboard and gather yourself.
     
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    This will be Bibi's eventual downfall if true.
     
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    When are you going attack bibi for failing his people? Why are you still bootlicking bibi after he failed his people. You were quick to blame biden but bootlick bibi when he didnt take warnings from the egyptians seirously.

    You right wingers are fake. 2 faced
     
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    Blaming others for israel barbiac actions Is insane.

    The us doesn't blame other countries for Launching the nuke. Israel should not b blaming hamas for its own decision to recklessly and Indiscriminately kill palestines.

    No one is forcing Israel to withhold food water and electricity to the folks in Gaza.

    Wrong doing by hamas does not justify wrong doing by israel inflicted upon the people of palestines no matter how u spin it.
     
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    This is inaccurate - the British referred to the region as "Palestine" for decades. The point being there were Arabs in the region - in fact who were the majority - who considered that area home. They were pushed out to create a home for a different group of people who never lived there.
     
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    There is no good solution, but the first step has to be the removal of Hamas as a gov't. I don't believe Israel can do this themselves, but rather countries, most notably Egypt, needs to be the one to occupy Gaza under a UN mandate. Root out Hamas should be the short term goal. Bombing Gaza to oblivious is not the solution though.
     
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    Your intellectual capability to differentiate a World War with two formidable foes compared to Israel (top 5 militaries in the world) VS Hamas (Terrorists with jeeps, guns, and unguided rockets launchers) is either willingfuly blind or raging hate.

    If you do not think one group holds a higher standard for care you are the Nazi you talk about. Your hate for the other side blinds you old man.
     
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    This is disingenuous because Hamas doesn’t really control a country, they are at the mercy of their apartheid master - which is Israel.

    There is no need for propaganda.

    This stuff is simple. The white man had power and decided to take the spoils of war and pass it on to the Jews. There were already Muslims living there and instead of killing all the Muslims in the piece of land gifted to the Jews - the white man decided to help keep the Jews from being slaughtered by the Muslims - who hate Jews as much as the white man did at the time.

    The Jews have been there 75 years and aren’t leaving. The Muslims in the WestBank and Gaza are poor and are oppressed by the Jews who cannot stand their existence because a book written 5,000 years ago say the Jews are better than everyone else and Israel is theirs and not the Egyptians, Romans, Ottoman’s and a dozen other groups or people that have claimed the land. This point cannot be discussed either - the fact that a mythical sky God matters cannot be pointed out either.

    The Muslims outside of the “occupied area” don’t really care about the Muslims in the occupied area - but it lets them hate Jews more and that’s good enough.

    Eventually the Jews will kill off or push out all the Arabs. Someday Israel will fall and the Muslims will absolutely slaughter them.

    Special thinks to the ignorant white men that decided dropping Jews in the middle of a bunch of Muslims was a good idea. Better yet the white men get to take no responsibility for what happens and can call everyone else barbaric.
     
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    Wow. This is by far the worst post you have ever made on Clutchfans. It almost seems like someone hijacked your computer.
     
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    Israel controls the water and the policy goes back and forth. Palestinians frequently aren't allowed to drill any new wells and receive a fraction of the water allowance given to the Israeli Settlers who occupy the land. To say they have been giving it is only true because they won't let Palestinians have any control over it.

    If you don't control a people's water supply and don't allow them to have it, it's murder.
     
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    Knowing both sides have ties to Putin. The thought did come up in my mind. Looking back into Netanyahu's history. We know he's an opportunist with shaky moral guide lines from his involvement in the lead up to Rabin's assassination.

    He's only recently come back into power from mass protests over his courruption. A music festival is like a perfect target/sacrifice because of its international presence. It's instant support as Israelis and other countries rally around him because of their fallen.
     
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    No one hijacked my computer.

    Extremely pessimistic about the Middle East after my own experiences the last 35 years.

    I have been a number of times. My wife’s family is from the Middle East.

    My son is Middle Eastern - I love that area of the world. I want it to be a fabulous place - but too often it is death and destruction and hatred often based at least in part on religious reasons.

    I have been to Israel amongst other places - and the hatred between Jews and Muslims permeates everything.

    Perhaps I am just down and too hard - but right now that is how I feel. Abrahamic religious killing each other.
     
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    Of course, because Hamas cares zero about the palestines - they only exist now to kill Jews

    Imagine caring so little about palestinians that you see them as human shields ... this isn't how you serve those you supposedly have an interest in
     
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    Hamas has zero control over the water.
     
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    Seems so, but it's from one key Congressman. Here is the video. Assuming he's right, this is what he stated:

    First 30 seconds:
    • Intelligence failure
    • Not quite sure how we missed it
    • Not quite sure how Israel missed it
    • We know Egypt had warned Israel 3 days prior
    • We know this may have been planned perhaps as long as a year ago
    Next minute: lots of concern with escalation and this potentially going out of control; we want it to be contained to Gaza.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5088...elligence-failures-escalation-middle-conflict
     
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