Dampier involved in 5-player deal to Mavs (and gets $73 million)

it certainly is a weird mix of players

who is there creator for me that is the key, they have all these great scoring weapons, but who is catalyst, the assist man, the one setting them up

Harris is a rookie, Terry is more of a scorer, Daniels looked sensational last year but teams will be ready for him this year, is he up for it.... Stack can create some

as for scorers they are loaded... Dirk, Stack, Finley, Terry, Howard, Daniels and now Damp

Defensively they will be better than recent years..... Damp will help, Dirk will continue to play what he calls D, Finley is solid and Stack averageish... like the itensity Daniels and Howard bring to the defensive end, they are long, active and hussle.... not sure Terry is better than Nash on D, Nashy was at least smart....

this is a very interesting mix of players... they still have Dirk and Finley and have finally added the big decent Centre, Terry and Stack add something to replace Nash and they have some nice young players in Daniels, Howard and Harris and maybe Pavel

gotta wonder if by feb they don't make a play for Kidd... gotta think two of Daniels, Howard and Harris plus an expiring contract might get the Nets to bite

 

Man, they won't have much behind Dirk and Dampier, but jeebus... that's still some kinda team they got there. Gotta give 'em credit... they keep trying.

 

Daniels started at shooting guard the last month of the season and all of the playoffs. It is actually his best position.

 

For some reason I thought Golden State was in the Eastern Conference. I'm stupid. Or not...

 

The Mavs are probably the one team that'll be a tough matchup for Yao (and Shaq)- they can throw size after size. Dampier, and then two guys who can look Yao in the eyes with the Preying Mantis and P-Pod. And then they have a couple ordinary centers in Booth and Eschmeyer. Geez, add in Dirk, and that's SIX guys that are 6-11+.

nWo- Daniels played next to Nash a lot and is 6-6 or so; he's a very versatile player. Actually a very good fit next to a scoring guard like Terry. The Mavs traded Jamison to pick up the pick to get Devin Harris.

If the Mavs weren't a division rival, a Spoon for Booth trade would make a lot of sense.

 

Thats funny that Eschmeyer and Booth are on their 2nd stint with the Mavs, its just a matter of time that Nash comes back too....

 

Mavs may miss Najera more than ED helps.

Warriors now (would) have Murphy, Cliffie, Christian, and Najera at the 4, + the rook Biedrens and DDavis with those two plus Foyle at the 5.

Warriors still have Fish and Speedy at the 1 as well as would-be 1s, Pietrus and Dunleavy Jr.

Hey, Chris Mullin, send Rox Najera (for floor burns and grit and appeal to a spcific market) and Speedy for ... TE? Lue and Pike? Come on, guy, make it work! Rox will accept some charity here.

 

I forgot about the African 7-0er, so make it 7 guys that are 6-11+ on that team.

Here's the current Mavs depth chart:

Terry/Harris/Dickau
Daniels/Stackhouse/Stefansson
Finley/Howard/Abdul-Wahad
Nowitzki/Henderson
Dampier/Bradley/P-Pod/Eschmeyer/Booth/DJ Mbenga

That's seventeen contracts. The only one they can cut that would be under a mill would be Dickau's and Stefansson's. The only expiring deal they've got is Henderson's. They've got 85 mill committed NEXT year. Hell, they've got around 55 mill committed in 07-08 already to Finley, Dirk, Daniels, Bradley, and Dampier alone.

That is sick cash to be throwing around.

 

Daniels is soldified at the 2, where he plays best. He IS 6-6 and he's got really long arms. Played great at the 2 last year.

I'm pretty sure dallas isn't through dealing.

And for whoever said that Finley is a solid defender...you don't watch many mavs games. He's gotten progressively worse the last 3 seasons. Dirk, OTOH, has at least raised his defense to a level that isn't embarassing any more.

 

Dirk's defense is acutually underrated now when everyone says
he plays no defense. He's got plenty of defensive rbs and blocks.

 

If Dallas is looking to trade 2 for 1
to lessen their # of contracts how about:

Mo Taylor for Jerry Stackhouse & Shawn Bradley

HOUSTON (15)
SF: Jackson/Nachbar/Griffin
PF: Howard/Weatherspoon/Padgett
C: Yao/Bradley
PG: Sura/Lue/Ward/Gaines
SG: McGrady/Stackhouse/Piatkowski

this lets the Rockets retain Scott Padgett while still having a proven scorer off the bench in Jerry.

DALLAS (15)
SF: Finley/Howard
PF: Nowitzki/Taylor/Mbenga
C: Dampier/Booth/Eschmeyer/Podkolzin
PG: Terry/Harris/Dickau
SG: Daniels/Abdul-Wahad/Stefanson

this lets the Mavericks play Josh Howard more as he backs up both Finley and Daniels.

 

With your team, Daniels shoots far too much from the PG spot to maximize your scorers' potential. Really, the best option for the Mavs as far as a creator on offense goes may be Stackhouse. Without a true post threat, you'll still need somebody with a solid ability to dive, draw defenses, and kick the ball out to the open shooter.
Terry isn't that guy imo, because he's more of a shooter, plus his small size and general lack of a purely pass first mentaliy will cause him to drive the lane (whenever he decides to) with more of an intent on scoring.
Finley's handles are highly questionable for trying to create for himself, much less anyone else.
Dirk, though he handles the ball well for a big man, won't really be able to draw defenses inside because they're more comfortable with him there than out on the perimeter. Defensive coaches generally take theie chances one on one with him inside. Mostly because of his lack of a creative offensive repitoire (pull up J, fade away).
Dampier, well I don't really have to say much here. He just needs to play D and rebound. Offense isn't exactly his forte.
Anyway, what this all comes down to is Stackhouse being the one best suited for creating for other shooters (which works out because he is actually the worst shooter out of the quartet of he, Terry, Dirk, and Fin). He actually did this quite well during he and Grant Hill's final season together in Detroit when both of them essentially played the same, all around role on offense. Not only did Stack score well, but Grant Hill was able to feed off of him to the tune of about 27 ppg, the highest scoring average of his career. That entire team fed off of Stackhouse's ability to drive the lane and score/get fouled/find open shooters. Dallas should really try to emulate this type of offense (Not everything through Stack, of course. Dirk should get his touches too.), rather that depending on Terry or Daniels to play the role of breaking down the D, ala Nash. It's kind of like what the Mavs tried last year letting Walker run the offense at times, except much more effective because Stack plays more under control and is a better scoring threat.

The reason I'm not as concerned with Dallas as much this year as in years past is because you lack the creator/great shooter that the Rox generally have problems with. Steve Nash used to be that guy, but now he's gone. Though I think Stackhouse can be a creator, I'm confident in letting Tracy man up on him and daring him to shoot from the outside instead of trying to penetrate. I would've never said that about Nash. That would be crazy against him.
In seasons past, whenever Francis would clamp down on him to take away his shot, he'd just drive the lane and create open jumpers for others. That always got f*cking annoying.

Eh, but this is all essentially speculation and I'm particularly bored tonight. We'll see what happens when the season starts.

(btw, how does it feel to know that Bob is gonna bandwagon and root for your team because you got JT? That's gotta suck )

 

but there was a talk about lil' general AJ to Dallas also. that makes one more PG.

 

Dallas is obviously still looking to deal, but they've already done well by finally getting a starting-caliber center. I wouldn't be surprised if they're still going to try and bring in Kidd, Ray Allen, or Carter.

Good move by Mullin - instead of letting Dampier simply walk or accept a junk trade with the Knicks, he gets a valuable SF backup to replace Cardinal as well as 2 first rounders. Nice move, and it screws Isiah!

Evan

 

This is the first thing that came to my mind after reading the original post. Sure we'll still have to face Najera in the regular season, but at least he's out of our way for the playoffs.

Pugs

 

I bet you they are going for either Kidd or Carter.


Their team is deformed right now.

They have 3 players, none of whom are perfect PG's:

terry (more of a scorer), marquis daniels (more of a SG), devin harris (rookie).

Stakchouse? Calvin Booth? Why did they get these guys?

Something's up. They can deal with Phoenix now as well - they have a whole bunch of C's they can trade to Phoenix, maybe for Marion? They can save Phoenix tons of capspace and they can throw in Josh Howard.


Shawn Marion and Dirk Nowitzki would be a tremendous SF/PF combination. They cover up for each other really well - Nowitzki the pure shooter/scorer, Marion the shotblocker/rebounder/finisher. Marion can run like crazy.

Dampier
Nowitzki
Marion
Mike Finley
Marquis Daniels/Devin Harris

that would be a team I would fear. Everyone but Nowitzki is a damn good defender there, while they have an excellent scoring bench, as well as an excellent bench (Stackhouse and probably Terry)

Imagine they offer Josh Howard, Alan Henderson and Phoenix's choice of one of their C's? Excellent deal for both sides IMO.

 

Sane, you might be onto something there. I think that Suns/Mavs trade you propose is a good one. The Suns can't keep all of their salaries on the books so the trade you propose gets them a solid CHEAP SF in Howard, an expiring contract in Henderson and a C, probably Booth. This also allows the Suns to then be able to KEEP Joe Johnson around instead of likely losing him when his contract is up. Talentwise Dallas gets the better end of the deal but for Phoenix it is more about managing their cap and using their money wisely.

As far as Dallas is concerned it is Howard for Marion. And that is once again talentwise a steal for Dallas. Marion on the frontline with Dirk and Dampier is a great match. However, making that move adds a ton more money to Dallas' salary cap. It totally goes against them wanting to slash money with the idea behind NOT resigning Nash. To me they would be flip flopping their direction. Talentwise it is a no brianer, but salary/strategy wise it is a head scratcher.

 

Anyone know what damp's new contract is?

 

We probably wont know until the trade goes down next Tuesday.

 

B I G !!!