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The Rockets need the FIBA version of Dillon Brooks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HTown1977, Sep 5, 2023.

  1. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    While watching this I did realize how nice it would be to have a Draymond on the team to antagonize other stars instead of always being on the receiving end though.
     
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    I don't think Wiggins is coming back. Brooks is definitely the defensive anchor for the team as of now.

    Hopefully we get Matherin and Sharpe for the Olympics
     
  3. icewill36

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    i was all in for the dillon brooks signing as soon as i heard the rumors. he just has to play within himself offensively, and i think with a coach like Ime he will. i love the rest of what he brings.
     
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    Brooks at 6-8 FGA is a valuable role player, Brooks at 13+ FGA is an offensive liability.

    Hope the Rockets don't get burned by FIBA Brooks like FIBA Melo.
     
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    One, even if the Rockets sign a max player in 2025 and then give Sengun and Green max contracts because they turned into stars, they still aren't going to be close to the second apron. So you can rest assured Fertittas bank account is safe in that regards.

    And two, more importantly, role players on MLE level contracts are easily movable. And that's not even considering that if the Rockets are looking to compete in 2-3 years, they would be spending money anyway on wing role players that every team needs lots of. So even if the Rockets get rid of Brooks, they are just replacing him with a Thybulle or Divincenzo anyways
     
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    i was all in for the dillon brooks signing as soon as i heard the rumors. he just has to play within himself offensively, and i think with a coach like Ime he will. i love the rest of what he brings.
     
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    Let's not forget that the majority of negative press on Brooks was due to him antagonizing LeBron in the playoffs last season. The negative media narrative on him really took on a life of it's own.
     
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    Just waiting for the season to start to watch all the cats that was crying “NO” when he was signed and peep how they act like they always knew it was a good pick up on the message board. lol
     
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    Just waiting for the start of the season to watch all the cats that was crying "GIVE HIM A CHANCE" when he was signed and peep how they act like they always knew it was doomed from the start on the message board.

    Actually I don't even think there are that many people who said that, so never mind.
     
  11. liveguy

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    you must be one of them ones i was talkin’ about
     
  12. glimmertwins

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    The thing is you and @liveguy are both right. Brooks WILL be helpful on this team...and they will STILL lose 50ish games because this is still a largely inexperienced teams and the vets we do have aren't good enough to pull the young guys above that...and that leaves the door open for someone to be a fall guy and Brooks is nothing if not the NBA's best fall guy.

    There are going to be lineups where Sengun, Amen, and Brooks are on the floor at the same time and Brooks WILL take the late in the clock shots that Sengun and Amen will be avoiding so you can say "hey, Brooks is tanking this team and his 25% shooting night is why we lost"....but it misses the context of what the other players aren't doing.

    FWIW, I think Brooks will help this team ultimately but his impact will be felt in culture and mentorship more so than his individual play - just the same as it will be for FVV.
     
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    I disagree that he is the perfect fall guy. Dude is 27, he is going to be declining soon one or the other way.

    This is his last big contract, this is reality. He is not Harden, he is not Lillard, and he is not Jaylen Brown.

    It is a good situation for him actually.

    23 sounds like big money but in reality is just above mid level exception, to make the midlevel exception your fall guy is not adequate.

    The Fall guys have to be Stone and to a lesser degree Udoka.

    And they very likely woud trade someone like Alperen, KPJ and Cam away.

    Alpe, because he is a foreigner and foreigners have been targets of mobbing before.
     
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    Sure - I suppose last year's fall guy can also be this year's fall guy but I was hoping KPJ would no longer be fall guy material with Brooks doing largely the same thing but without any of the flashiness KPJ sometimes has.
     
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    He's the 2nd highest paid player on this roster - it's all relative when you are losing games.

    ...and the fact you tried to turn it into a "poor Alpe" conversation is laughable. People on this forum love to paint Sengun as some kind of victim. Spare me the drama.
     
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    How do we get the NBA to allow players to defend like FIBA.
    Nobody wants hand checking but a little open palm bump here and there isn't going to hurt anyone.
     
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    Crazy oversimplified (the first bolded point is almost impossible) but hey, like I said, no point in arguing with sweeping statements.

    May Brooks be a great value and worth his contract for the Rockets or may your belief be true that $21M/year players are easy to move. I'm good with either one of those.
     
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    FIBA is concerned with the most even playing field to compete in to legitimize the league. The NBA is ultimately more concerned with the entertainment product they are selling since their league is already widely recognized as the best professional basketball league on the planet.

    Ultimately it's the NBA's rules that have made the sport more and more attractive to wider global populations that has even allowed FIBA to have the clout that it now does.
     
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    Not really.. The flopping has gotten out of hand. The NBA was already global prior to the nba players sensationalizing Kevin Martin's shtick. It needs to change. The league knows it too.
     

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