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[Official] Chris Christie for President 2024 thread

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    can't get behind the fatso thread, that's like calling Obama the n-word ;)

    Christie slams ‘mirror hog’ Trump while launching 2024 bid

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4037687-christie-slams-mirror-hog-trump-while-launching-2024-bid

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    Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) announced on Tuesday that he’s running for president, setting up a rematch against former President Trump in 2024.

    While speaking in the Granite State, Christie took jabs at President Biden and former President Trump. He said that Trump “made us smaller” for pitting groups against each other and arguing Biden was doing the same thing as he painted Republicans “with just one brush.”

    He went on to criticize Trump even more, saying a “lonely, self-consumed, self-serving mirror hog is not a leader” and comparing him to “Voldemort,” the villain in the “Harry Potter” series.

    “Let me be clear, in case I have not been already — the person I am talking about who is obsessed with the mirror, who never admits a mistake, who never admits a fault and who always find someone else and something else to blame for whatever goes wrong but finds every reason to take credit for anything that goes right is Donald Trump,” Christie said.

    He also took an implicit jab at Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis over some of his previous comments on Ukraine and Russia, in which he called the international conflict a “territorial dispute.”

    “All throughout our history, there have been moments when we’ve had to choose between big and small. And I would tell you, the reason I’m here tonight is because this is one of those moments, and you see it everywhere,” Christie said. “We have candidates for president who say we shouldn’t care about what’s happening in Ukraine. We shouldn’t care that Russia wants to take a free and freedom0loving country and put it back under its thumb.”

    Christie’s launch, which he made official during a town hall at Saint Anselm College in New Hampshire, comes after he filed paperwork earlier on Tuesday declaring his candidacy.
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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    I’m wondering if Christie even makes it to the Debate stage.
     
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    I don't get why he is running. Like he must know he is a huge long-shot. Is this just a way to secure his place as a force in the GOP?
     
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    I think for many of these people running they already have an inflated sense of self worth. For Christie I think he believes since he still in in demand as a commentator and feels as someone who once was a Trump toady he has more of a chance to capture the never Trump lane.
     
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    Succession's parody of Connor is a perfect description of that.
     
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    Fatso fires the first salvo, prosecuting Trump & his family as grifters

     
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    He the only GOP candidate for POTUS with courage. Good for him. I hope he goes right at Trump on the debate stage. Plenty of ammunition.

     
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    This is likely the first time he's run for something since 8 yrs ago.

    He almost got somewhere last time by being the first to pivot, but was proven unfit for the position.

    So yeah, a little bit of effort leveraging his gravity in the GOP could pay off this time as well.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    Ads Hutchinson and even Pence have said some very though things agains Trump.

    I’m not going to really give them
    Much credit now. A lot of republicans including Christie said some tough things about Trump
    Until he won the nomination and then they lined up to kiss his ass.
     
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    The most interesting challenger to Donald Trump just jumped into the race

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...er-to-donald-trump-just-jumped-into-the-race/

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    No, the most interesting candidate to announce last week wasn’t Burgum or Pence. It was former Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.).

    Not necessarily because he is likely to win. At this point, it is probably fair to say that he is unlikely to win. But he will certainly make the race a lot more entertaining. And he, and maybe only he, is in a position to take Donald Trump down a notch — or several notches.

    Or maybe even all the way down.

    One could make the case that Christie is uniquely situated to give Trump fits. Keep in mind, to a certain extent, Christie was Trump before Trump. He was the straight-talking, no-BS, iconoclast, king of the political takedowns and one-liners. He could dominate an entire media cycle with his unconventional approach to politics and his confrontational attitude toward the political media.

    Like Trump, Christie likes to fight. And I don’t mean in the same way that every politician in this day and age mouths the same catchphrases about “fighting for you.” I mean, going at it — verbally, of course.

    That is something Trump hasn’t encountered before. One of the reasons Trump cut through the 2016 field like a hot knife through butter is that his opponents were simply not wired to take him on, on his own terms. Jeb Bush was not a political knife-fighter. Marco Rubio thought he was, but he wasn’t. And Ben Carson — well, he was Ben Carson. None of them had it in their DNA to punch back at Trump at the same way he punched at them. That doesn’t make them bad people, but it made them unsuited to do battle with Trump.

    After spending an hour with Christie shortly before his announcement, I got the very real impression that, by contrast, he relishes the fight. Yes, he may be “in it to win it,” but as part of that, he seems to welcome going after the former president. He has known Trump for years. His experience with the man is like that of so many others: collected, manipulated, used, then discarded.

    But unlike the Mike Pences and Kayleigh McEnaneys of the world, Christie is in a position to take some measure of revenge.
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    What a lightweight that RDS
     
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    I prescribe to the theory that he’s running to stop Trump.

     
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    Christie vs. Trump is going to the most (read: only) exciting part of 2024.

    He understands how to beat Trump. Just have to hope he survives long enough to draw blood and things could get very interesting.
     
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    There's a glaring hole in this theory.

    If you "beat Trump" you are almost certainly the defacto Republican nominee.

    Just about anybody who gets the nomination is going to have a ballpark coinflip chance of winning.

    As long as the electoral college is in town, the days of landslides and comfortable margins are over.
     
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    Chris Christie is actually gaining support for president. From Democrats.
    They can’t get enough of his new Trump-bashing persona.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/04/new-hampshire-democrats-chris-christie-00111379

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    The former New Jersey governor has seen his popularity soar with Democrats. Whereas Democrats once considered him a bully, a threat and an opportunistic apologist for Donald Trump, they now can’t get enough of his new Trump-bashing persona.

    “He’s probably the only Republican I would vote for,” said Joe Daly, a Democrat from Warner, N.H., who voted for Biden in 2020 but isn’t sold on a second term. Of those on the right, Christie is “the most reasonable, rational alternative to crazy Donald Trump.”

    Christie’s crossover success in New Jersey politics — and what made him a national star circa 2012 — was largely based on his ability to work with Democrats to notch significant policy victories. He aggressively courted Democrats along the way to his reelection in 2013, so much so that his top aides choked access to the George Washington Bridge — the world’s busiest — to punish a local Democratic mayor for not backing Christie (he was not found to have any involvement).

    But a decade later, it’s Democrats who are among the biggest boosters of Christie’s presidential bid.

    A July New York Times and Siena College poll found 14 percent of Democrats would be most likely to vote for Christie as the Republican nominee — support that soared to 24 percent with Democratic “leaners” included. That’s higher than Christie’s polled in any survey of likely GOP primary voters since he entered the race in June.

    And Christie ranked third-highest among Democrats following the first Republican presidential debate, with 12 percent who watched it saying he won, according to a New York Post poll. The same survey said Democrats preferred Christie to be the Republican nominee behind Liz Cheney, the former Wyoming representative who isn’t running for president.
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