James Harden: Daryl Morey is a Liar

i3artow i3aller · Aug 31, 2023

Easy · Aug 31, 2023

i3artow i3aller said: ↑

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Not sure if Rachel has good sauces or just BSing. If true, it reminds me of this:

daywalker02 · Aug 31, 2023

Easy said: ↑

Not sure if Rachel has good sauces or just BSing. If true, it reminds me of this:

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Rachel is with Undisputed now, who would have thunk....Skiiiiip.....

B-Bob · Aug 31, 2023

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So... he thought he would go to LA and what exactly? ... convince KL and PG than they should defer to him?

That report makes no sense, but if true, he may literally be mentally ill.

EDIT: On what team would Harden be a #1 option now? The Bobcats? Definitely not the Spurs now, and I don't think even on the Thunder, but maybe? And probably not on Detroit or Houston if those franchises know what's good for them/us. (Debatable.)

cheke64 · Sep 5, 2023

clos4life · Sep 6, 2023

B-Bob said: ↑

So... he thought he would go to LA and what exactly? ... convince KL and PG than they should defer to him?

That report makes no sense, but if true, he may literally be mentally ill.

EDIT: On what team would Harden be a #1 option now? The Bobcats? Definitely not the Spurs now, and I don't think even on the Thunder, but maybe? And probably not on Detroit or Houston if those franchises know what's good for them/us. (Debatable.)
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His days of being number 1 on a contender are behind him.

i3artow i3aller · Sep 6, 2023

J.R. · Sep 6, 2023

But Harden had also come to Philadelphia thinking he would be compensated like he used to be. After his first season in Philadelphia, Harden took approximately $14 million less than what he was due in a player option so the team could sign veteran forward P.J. Tucker away from the Miami Heat.

It was sold by the Sixers as "sacrifice" to both Harden and the public -- a line he dutifully repeated throughout the season.

"You have to sacrifice to get to where you've never been," Harden said that night in Los Angeles. "I'm in a really good space on the court and off the court."

But Harden was savvy, too. He knew the reason he was "sacrificing" was that the Sixers didn't feel comfortable offering him a new maximum contract worth upward of $270 million, sources said, after the way he played following a midseason trade from the Brooklyn Nets. They were still evaluating him, much like he had been evaluating the Nets a year earlier when they offered him a max deal and he said he wanted to see how things went.

This wasn't so much a sacrifice as mutual unspoken recognition. The dream of recreating the glory days in Houston had probably already passed them by. But they played it out anyway, the Sixers never quite sure Harden was worth the max he sought, and Harden suspecting they felt that way.

So the "sacrifice" narrative was created. And it worked for everybody -- until it didn't.

What Harden didn't realize was how little he'd be left with when it all came apart.
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In mid-December, Rivers lit into Harden for taking the final three shots in regulation of a double-overtime loss to the young and lottery-bound-again Rockets, sources said. It wasn't that Rivers didn't trust Harden to take the final three shots -- he had allowed him to run the offense and call his own number on the final play of regulation by not calling a timeout following a defensive rebound. It's that the Rockets had no answer for Embiid (39 points) all night and Harden wasn't shooting well (4-for-19).

When questioned in the film session, Harden demurred, saying he just couldn't get the ball to Embiid, sources said. These flare-ups between Harden and Rivers continued throughout the season.
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But Harden didn't travel with the team to Miami, sources said. He traveled separately, with permission from the front office, to enjoy the nightlife. This is not uncommon in the NBA, or for Harden, but it didn't sit well with Rivers and several players on the team, sources said.

Days later, Rivers brought it up in a team meeting, sources said, specifically mentioning several of the players who expressed concerns about Harden's actions.

The whole episode was "uncomfortable," one team source said. Even if they agreed with the substance of Rivers' message to Harden, and the idea of holding him accountable, it was awkward for the players who were named.
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Morey made it clear that re-signing Harden to a new contract was the team's top priority. But there was real debate internally about how much and how long of a contract they should offer him, sources said. Was he worth as much as the three years and up to $126 million that 31-year-old Irving ultimately received from the Dallas Mavericks?

Harden was eligible for a four-year, $210 million contract if he declined his $35.6 million player option and became a free agent. And he was expecting a contract in that range, sources said, having taken less the previous summer and having left a $161 million extension on the table from Brooklyn in August 2021 and turned down a two-year, $100 million extension from the Rockets in February 2021.

But Harden had little leverage to extract that kind of offer from Philadelphia. The Rockets' interest in reacquiring him as a free agent cooled after they hired Ime Udoka as their head coach in late April, sources said. Udoka was trying to set a new culture in Houston, not bring back the past. He wanted to target defensive-minded players like Memphis' Dillon Brooks and Milwaukee's Brook Lopez.

With no other strong suitors, Harden was in a difficult position.

His best leverage was a loyalty play with Morey, who made his career in the NBA by seeing Harden's brilliance early and then empowering him throughout an eight-year run in Houston. Morey had signed Harden to three contract extensions in their time together, including the richest contract in NBA history at the time. He tried to trade for Harden almost as soon as he took the Philadelphia job in November 2020.

But now, when it mattered most, Morey wasn't taking Harden's calls.

"James felt like Daryl was ghosting him," one source close to Harden said. "He felt betrayed."

Rather than wait for Morey and the Sixers to present whatever offer they had come up with once free agency opened July 1, Harden and his representatives, Mike Silverman and Troy Payne, decided to pick up his $35.6 million player option before the June 30 deadline and ask for a trade.

Better to take the guaranteed money for the 2023-24 season than be forced to accept whatever offer the team made him.

The Sixers were stunned at Harden's decision, sources said, insisting to him and his representatives that they had been distant only because they were just hit with the largest tampering fine in NBA history and that they had every intention of re-signing him, as soon as the rules allowed.

But Harden was already too far gone.

"James takes things very personally," another source close to Harden said. "When he feels like he's been wronged, he can be very stubborn."
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FOR THE NEXT few weeks, Morey left Harden alone. He said he would make a good faith effort to trade Harden and had initial conversations, league sources said, with Harden's preferred team, the Clippers, as well as the New York Knicks.

But by mid-August, it became clear none of the teams that expressed interest in Harden had any intention of giving Morey the kind of return he was looking for -- namely, a player or assets to keep the team in championship contention. On Aug. 12, ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported that Philadelphia decided to end talks with the Clippers and expected Harden to report to training camp.

Harden was informed of the team's decision before the report came out, sources said, and he was not happy.

On Aug. 14, while at a promotional event in China, Harden announced, "Daryl Morey is a liar and I will never play for an organization he is a part of again."

The message was meant to hurt, and it did.

Harden later told NBA investigators that the lie he was referring to was his belief that Morey had gone back on his word after telling Harden he would trade him. The NBA fined Harden $100,000 for his comments.

Very little has happened since. The calendar has turned to September. Training camp begins at the end of the month.

Nothing is resolved.

"The situation with James Harden is unfortunate," Sixers majority owner Josh Harris told ESPN. "I want this to work out for all sides, including James. But we have to keep our eye on the big picture, which is that we're still a contending team and most teams in the NBA would change places with us in five minutes."
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Thus far, Embiid has given the franchise assurances he is OK riding out the current drama with Harden, sources said. How long he gives them to resolve the matter remains to be seen.
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Asian Sensation · Sep 6, 2023

Sorry. Ass. BUM!

lnchan · Sep 6, 2023

mwahahahah

DCkid · Sep 6, 2023

The James Harden-Daryl Morey tiff is reportedly about hurt feelings

https://sports.yahoo.com/the-james-...dly-about-hurt-feelings-sixers-175724040.html

It's been weeks since we've heard any news on the ongoing feud between Philadelphia 76ers guard James Harden and general manager Daryl Morey. The last time we heard from them, Harden had been fined $100,000 for calling Morey a "liar" during a trip to China and saying he'd never play for the Sixers again as long as Morey was there.

It doesn't seem like anything has changed between them since then, but we may have some valuable insight into why and how the relationship between Harden and Morey, who have worked together since Harden was just a third-year player with the Oklahoma City Thunder and Morey traded for him as the general manager of the Houston Rockets, has come apart.

According to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne, the lengthy tiff between them is mostly the result of hurt feelings that built up over time, and a lack of honest communication.
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cheke64 · Sep 6, 2023

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mwahahahah

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He did the same thing with OKC when they offered him the contract.

How did he feel when Lebron and KD did this?
LeBron James Reaction To James Harden Being Drafted Last - YouTube

Charles: "He got traded he’s healthy now"

i3artow i3aller · Sep 7, 2023

cheke64 · Sep 7, 2023

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Those reports are real.

daywalker02 · Sep 8, 2023

That was more fire than in the Finals against the Heatles.

J.R. · Sep 17, 2023

Clippers Reportedly Ended James Harden Trade Talks

Word leaked last month that the Sixers had taken James Harden off the trade market, but it was actually the Clippers that shut down talks between the teams, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst said on the latest edition of his “Hoop Collective” podcast.

“(The Clippers) tried to trade for James Harden, and that deal didn’t happen,” Windhorst said. “And from what I understand, it was the Clippers who said, ‘Okay, there’s no deal here. We’re gonna move on.’ And while I assume that they could certainly make a deal midseason, I assume that this is what they’re gonna go with.”

Harden_4_3 · Sep 17, 2023

I think his only option at this point is to play for Daryl Morey, he doesn't have the same leverage he had when he forced his way out of Houston

Invisible Fan · Sep 17, 2023

J.R. said: ↑

Clippers Reportedly Ended James Harden Trade Talks

Word leaked last month that the Sixers had taken James Harden off the trade market, but it was actually the Clippers that shut down talks between the teams, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst said on the latest edition of his “Hoop Collective” podcast.

“(The Clippers) tried to trade for James Harden, and that deal didn’t happen,” Windhorst said. “And from what I understand, it was the Clippers who said, ‘Okay, there’s no deal here. We’re gonna move on.’ And while I assume that they could certainly make a deal midseason, I assume that this is what they’re gonna go with.”
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Translation: why pay for Jimmy in a fatsuit come training camp, when we can get slimmer 40 min per game (who breaks down right when we need him) Jimmy at a discount?

cheke64 · Sep 17, 2023

J.R. said: ↑

Clippers Reportedly Ended James Harden Trade Talks

Word leaked last month that the Sixers had taken James Harden off the trade market, but it was actually the Clippers that shut down talks between the teams, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst said on the latest edition of his “Hoop Collective” podcast.

“(The Clippers) tried to trade for James Harden, and that deal didn’t happen,” Windhorst said. “And from what I understand, it was the Clippers who said, ‘Okay, there’s no deal here. We’re gonna move on.’ And while I assume that they could certainly make a deal midseason, I assume that this is what they’re gonna go with.”
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They don't want Mark Henry in a clippers uni.

Salvy · Sep 17, 2023

J.R. said: ↑

Clippers Reportedly Ended James Harden Trade Talks

Word leaked last month that the Sixers had taken James Harden off the trade market, but it was actually the Clippers that shut down talks between the teams, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst said on the latest edition of his “Hoop Collective” podcast.

“(The Clippers) tried to trade for James Harden, and that deal didn’t happen,” Windhorst said. “And from what I understand, it was the Clippers who said, ‘Okay, there’s no deal here. We’re gonna move on.’ And while I assume that they could certainly make a deal midseason, I assume that this is what they’re gonna go with.”
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