Why doesn't Morey get the same criticism Stone did?

What are you talking about. Morey is likely going to be fired after this season. He's getting plenty of criticism for the James Harden debacle now.

 

I think Morey's last year in Houston, and his moves since show he is not the same GM he was for most of his Rockets tenure. Houston Harden was worth coddling to an extent, you do what you can to an extent thats just what it takes to retain someone like that in their prime in a small market, although it creates bad habits that won't go away when that player is no longer playing at the same level. Houston Morey did a lot for us, he is likely out of the league pretty soon though given what has transpired in Philly, he will actually get to spend time with his family like he said he wanted to.

This does not mean we need to give Stone any credit though, he has made a lot of mistakes, we just don't see them because he's also been handed a ton of opportunity. We have had a ton of assets come through, many have been wasted, the harden trade has not really net us much yet, giving away players for nothing, trying to sign Oladipo for big money and getting nothing for him when he was the prize from the Harden trade other than BKN picks, getting no value from many late firsts like JC, Garuba, TyTy, and lose KJM for nothing. Over paying guys like we did this off season, Morey would not have done any of that, he would have found value and thought ahead a little more, and done a better job of consolidating late firsts into something useful instead of just giving them away. It doesn't seem bad because the Rockets were rich with assets, but Stone is not maximizing returns. Morey was able to turn things like the corpose of T-mac into K-Mart, pull guys like Parsons out of a hat, make a trade for Harden, land prime Dwight, land JLin after linsanity on a good well structured contract (Lin was not my fav, but the overall impact was not bad given the contract), trade for CP3. Stone has been on the losing end of every trade so far, hes overpaid every big free agent, and just absolutely loves giving away things of value for free.

Every time Morey made trades, I would be shocked at how little we gave up, and every time we signed someone, other than Ryan Anderson, i was shocked at how little we paid. Morey was allowed to make some mistakes, because he consistently came through with us and consistently found value. With Stone it is the opposite, I am shocked w each trade in how little we get in return, often we just give players and assets away, and then w the FA signings I am shocked at how much we paid, it is the complete opposite. We have to have people justify the FA signings and amounts paid, we never had that issue w Morey. Morey was wheeling and dealing w a competitive roster and few assets, if he had a chance to tank and handed this many assets he would have done a lot better than what Stone has done.

 

In Morey We Trust.

 

Hires weak coaches he can control. Culture is always toxic.

Philly fans know he's a sociopath and Houston fans think he's a dork.

 

Stone ain't won ****

 

Morey turned the lame Yao and Tracy McGrady into something watchable (Harden when all was said and done. I loved Rockets Harden). I could get behind the Chuck Wagon and Scola even if they never made it past the first round. What has Stone done? My faith on the future is Ima. The jury is still out on Stone.

 

Simple answer, Maori is a Liar.

Lied his way out of town.

His critics are not part of the organization that he is part of.

 

Because of the perceived superiority in intelligence —MIT background and analytics driven among other things.

 

Morey added value in almost all trades but by bit without ever having the luxury of tanking. Stones added value came 100% from tanking and he has made abysmal mistakes along the way. Does he have a better personality than morey? Probably. But he is NOTHING compared to morey as a GM. His terrible non-draft moves in his short stint thus far show that he is a bottom 5 GM in the league (at best).

 

Off the top of my head, I'd say the T-Wolves, Hornets, Magic, Pistons, Wizards, and maybe Portland have a case to be as poorly run as Houston, and Minny is easily the only team where Stone is for sure more competent.

 

Even with the **** show going on in Philly, Morey is 3 times the GM Stone is.

 

Morey never had a season under .500

he took a team with an injury prone yao ad tmac , made them into a contender in 08-09 , rebuilt without tanking .. and had at least 2 more contenders in 14-15 and 17-18 . This , without a front office willing to pay the luxury tax .

stone has tanked for 3 straight years and just spent 60+ million in free agency . Most people still don’t project us to be over .500 this upcoming season .

Plus , Morey can beat stone at ping pong

 

stone offered oladipo a $60m extension as a rocket. He signed theis to a bad deal. Brooks to a bad deal. Lost KJM JC TyTY and usman for nothing. Traded jarret Allen for a very late first. These are so bad and it’s only been like 3y on the job.

morey in his first 3y turned rafer Alston into Kyle Lowry and slowly added enough value over time to get harden.

you want us to defend stones intellect? He has to show something first.

 

mauri invented analytics and changed sports forever

 

There is nothing special or memorable about Stone thus far.

Stone also had the advantage of being able to completely rebuild, which Morey didn’t have.

Honestly, I don’t think objectively someone can in good faith claim Stone is a better GM than Morey at this point.

 

Thinly disguised "Stone is the Rockets franchise GM" thread.

 

Not nearly enough. It mostly went on Harden.