Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

I don't know that he has given up on winning inside a court. I think he's rightly pretty confident he will win in Florida.

I do think he's fearful that ultimately a court somewhere is going to convict him, whether it's this DC case or GA or some other yet to be known court down the road.

But yeah, ultimately his strategy is purely electoral. His primary goal is to get re-elected and pardon himself and all of his allies and tear apart the justice department and anyone else he sees as an enemy.

 

Which is wild because that case seems so open and shut:

• He took classified documents he didn't have the right to keep
• He was given a chance to return those documents. Instead he lied and tried to hide them.

He's banking on the judge's shenanigans to keep him safe here.

 

1) Judge
2) FL jury pool

He just needs 1 person in Florida to acquit. 1 person in a jury pool that includes the people who sang him happy birthday after he left the court. lol

Getting convicted in that case will be a prosecutorial miracle.

 

He knows that at some point he is likely going to be convicted, and it is pretty clear that they are not going to stop coming after him. He views it as a witch hunt, that they will not stop - but either way, it ends with a conviction and being at the mercy of whoever the President is, to Pardon him, and there is ZERO chance he will EVER count on a pardon.

He ultimately believes he is above the law, and while I hear Liberals say that this attitude is crazy - it really isn't. He learned from his father that you can break the rules and laws and come out better for it, and his entire life has been about being smarter than the rules and laws, and finding a way to not be held accountable. He has done this in business for 60 decades and never has been held accountable. So why would he suddenly think he is going to be held accountable now?

Right now a lot of governments want their pound of flesh from him - and he is a corrupt man - but they better really hope he doesn't win re-election, because if he does - he will absolutely gut and destroy the Justice Department, and they will do his bidding, and he knows that those in Congress and the Senate that have an "R" next to their name will largely back him out of fear or retribution - and those with a "D" in Congress and Senate seem to live in this weird reality where they believe they can send him to jail and keep him in jail.

 

Probably trying to get these out before the judge shuts the door on his social media rants...

 

See - this is effective though, at least effective with those that do not trust the government and/or the democrats.

They will see the timing as suspicious, whether it is or isn't doesn't matter.

Further, pulling him off his media platforms will only further his claim that the establishment is out to get him because he doesn't play but their corrupt rules.

 

Trump's version of America is running for office after committing numerous crimes, and being able to get a free pass from jail, violate court orders repeatedly, and still get treated like a law abiding citizen.

 

that's a lotta decades

 

Meanwhile one of his lawyers/advisors will soon get his turn in the ring...

 

It is - he said one time that he started when he was still a child....... so Joe Biden was fighting Corn Pop and Donald Trump was learning how to **** the poors at an early age.

 

60 decades=600 years.

 

What is there to fear if Trump is elected in 2024? Was 2016 a disaster? I remember the opposite if we are being honest.

I've never seen Trump as an innocent victim. He is an @*******, he is a major troll on an enormous stage. He has no chill, he says whatever he wants despite who it may or may not offend. He is not a good politician, if anything he is awful at it. He did well in running the country pre pandemic. As a conservative, whether he truly stands for my values or not he is the only one who so far has fought for them. While he is a terrible politician, he is great at connecting with his base. He has not lost a single opportunity to take advantage of this debacle and use it for his campaign. Liberals continue to struggle to understand why it is that the worst they paint a picture of him the higher his polls go up.

Trump was accused of everything in 2016, racism, war monger, toxic masculinity, you name it. The country did not go to war and the U.S did not sink into mindless segregation or misogyny. If anything everything that was said about Trump was wrong. He did well. Can we not ignore how hard the media was to Trump? Imagine how they would treat Trump if Trump did and said some of the things Biden is doing and saying now. The truth is they have not treated both candidates equally. Why is that? Trump wasn't liked before he even decided to run for president.

I think its going to take a lot to put him in jail, in fact I firmly believe he won't go to jail. I highly doubt Democrats truly believe it also. I think it be an extremely convenient thing if Trump's legal team drops the ball and they do convict. The only one who can beat Dems in 2024 is Trump. If there's fire there's smoke. Same can be said about Biden and Hunter making millions off China and Ukraine. Where is that trial?

As I stated earlier, I believe Trump wanted protests. I doubt he wanted Jan 6, there is no way this was the endgame.

 

Sorry

 

The left has always used lawfare to try and throw their political opponents in prison (see Bob McDonnell, Ted Stevens, Tom Delay, Rick Perry, on and on). It's their nature.

But the nuclear scale of this is unprecedented. Trying to throw an ex-president and the ruling regime's leading opponent in prison for hundreds of years. All while the President's son is engaging in blatant corruption and criminality with zero consequence.

Absolute madness that will tear the country apart, but the left doesn't care.

The only hope is that judges throw out these cases. The jury pools in most of these cases (i.e. Manhattan, DC, Atlanta) are some of the most rabidly partisan in the country.

The DoJ also knows that the process is the punishment. They can tie you up in court for years and just drown you in legal fees, while they have unlimited resources.

I would venture over $100M has been spent by the DoJ targeting Trump, not to mention the thousands of man-hours. No one has ever had that before.

I was skeptical they would be brazen enough to try for pre-trial detention, but their thirst for blood seems to have no limit.

 

New charges against Trump focus on lies. Scholars see an authoritarian playbook

"All authoritarian leaders have cults of personality," said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, professor of history at New York University and author of Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present. "Meaning, they propose themselves as all-powerful, as the only solution possible to the nation's ills. 'I alone can fix it.' "

They immediately start trying to turn the public against the press, saying [the press is] biased and that they are the truth teller against the establishment."

"What Trump is doing is, he's asking for personal loyalty to him to outweigh the rule of law," said Jason Stanley, professor of philosophy at Yale University and author of How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them. "We see this in any authoritarian takeover of a system. We see the authoritarian say, 'Devotion to me is more important than the rule of law.' "

"Lies can undermine democracy, of the way trust is central for our democracy," he said. "Democracy relies on faith in its institutions and laws. Otherwise, there's no stability."

 

Stop your pathetic gaslighting. All of this is Trumps doing. Nobody on the left made Trump attempt to over turn Democracy. Nobody on the left made Trump use his social media to threaten witnesses.

Trump is not above the law like you would like since you obviously crave autocracy and hate democracy. However the rest of us are stupid enough to be so easily gaslit. Trump made his own bed.

So Fck right off please.

 

Trump was indicted by a grand jury, not "the left".

 

I think trump is looking for a new lawyer/spokesperson... you should apply for the job. Unless trump's comms team wrote this for you. The fiction is quite good.

 

In an alternate world, Trump would have returned all classified documents and quietly walked away....and none of this happens.

He is such a pathetic loser, he 100% did this to himself.

 

Yep it’s so obvious that right now Trump and his followers are attempting an open strategy of forcing America into an autocracy. He’s not even trying to win these case in court. He only cares about the pathway to becoming a dictator because he knows that it’s his only personal path to preserving his freedom and fortune.

And MAGA supporters here are way too zealous in their support of overturning democracy from the bleachers. The anti American hatred even here is staggering.