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Graveman returns

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Joe Joe, Jul 28, 2023.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Should benefit both teams, solid move.
     
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  2. Pringles

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    A bull pen arm was a need for us and will be in the offseason with Neris's departure looming. I like this trade.

    We really need our top two starting pitchers to be dominating again or else it'll be impossible to pull off another world series.
     
  3. AznH-TownFan

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    Diaz and cheap veteran catch next year. Or Salazar. Anyone but Maldy.
    I do too. Lee wasn’t gonna get called up help this year or next if Diaz is healthy. And we all know much much bullpen help is needed. We still need another bullpen arm.
     
  4. RussE

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    He failed here once. Gonna try it again
    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    I remember looking at a White Sox game box score the other day. I believe he gave up 3 in the 9th with a 4-1 lead. Welcome back!
     
  5. IBTL

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    YULE C.
     
  6. juicystream

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    He makes way less than what we gave Montero. Personally, I'm not a fan of Graveman. Really wanted Lynn & Hendricks (granted Graveman is a safer bet with Hendricks injury). Hopefully this also signals that they Diaz as the catcher of the future, rather than as a primary DH.
     
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  7. YOLO

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    run it back

     
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  8. RussE

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    True. He was pouting in the Astros BP the next day after being traded.

    His last 5 games....

    5 innings
    8 hits
    5 earned runs
    1 walk
    5 K's
    1 HR
    2 HBP
     
  9. rockbox

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    That's cheap considering Click was going to trade Urquidy for a 2 months rental of Contreras.
     
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  10. asianballa23

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    he's basically replacing Montero, hopefully still a slight upgrade.
     
  11. Joe Joe

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    I haven't seen much of the CWS this year. The walk rate this year is a little scary. His stats suggest he's more Seth Martinez and Stanek than someone that can take some high leverage innings from Pressly, Abreu, and Neris. I still want at least another high leverage guy.
     
  12. panamamyers

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    The White Sox have undoubtedly the worst defense I have seen in major league baseball in the last 25 years. DWAR is not the be all end all but they have a -4.2 and the Astros have a +1.9
    Graveman could pitch exactly the same way he did there over here and drop his ERA a run and a half.

    It's the main reason the White Sox are so bad. I was looking it up the other day to try to figure out how the White Sox have like 10 guys that everyone wants to trade for and still stink.
    Their defense is atrocious and then just overall probably not a good clubhouse that knows how to win.
     
  13. Nick

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    Willl see how much of that gets a bump being on a team that should be winning more than losing.... but it works both ways (some dominant relievers on losing teams end up flailing when they start getting more leverage situations that matter).
     
  14. jayfree

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    Awesome news... Will he be available to pitch against the Rangers two days ago?
     
  15. punkoholic

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    Also basically he replaces Neris next year assuming Neris opts out??
     
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  16. Joe Joe

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    My guess is he replaces Mushinski or Martinez.
     
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  17. jayfree

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    So I'm guessing the White Sox laughed at getting Montero for Cease then
     
  18. IdStrosfan

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    I really like Mushinski actually.

    Seth is the relief version of Bielak. Important to have, dangerous to need.
     
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    It's still on the table. They may need to send some cash back to make it work.
     
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  20. Redfish81

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    I like it.

    Needed a bullpen arm under control next season with Neris, Stanek, and Maton likely gone via free agency.

    Also, I'm not very high on Korey Lee. Saw him have problems with Framber in a Spring Training game and just don't see him being very special.

    Diaz is the starter next year. Sign a backup... no big deal.
     
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