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Jaylen Brown agrees to Max Extension - $304M

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ExTexanNowEastCoast, Jul 25, 2023.

  1. marinara

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    Has nothing to do with making their home grown players better, its sport washing. I am avid Liverpool fan and it disgusts me that our Captain is going there.
     
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    Probably has no idea what goes on there
     
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    The Jaylen Browns of the world are always the hardest to deal with, clearly not a super-star, but much better than anyone you can resonably replace him with.

    Now Boston has a third of their cap wrapped up in a wing that can't run the Pick and Roll.
     
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    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    In fairness, the only sport I can think of in which one individual player can make as huge of an impact as in basketball might be hockey? When there are only 5 guys on the court, 1 superstar makes a hell of a difference.
     
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    thinly-disguised I-miss-Josh-Christopher comment

    btw any decision yet?
     
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    I can't think of a better example of Process Braining yourself into a state of copiod delusion than a Rockets fan happily declaring they'd rather have Dillon Brooks than an all-NBA player.... because of Dillon Brooks' contract.
     
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    If Brown got that much, what is Tatum worth?
     
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    They're technically both All NBA Players just one is offense and the other is defense.
     
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    I'm waiting until at least the pre-season. There is no rush. I am confident someone will separate themselves from the pack.
     
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    Yeah, I've been on record over and over again saying that I think Jaylen Brown is outside the top 20 players in the league, so clearly I don't think his actual talent level is All-NBA caliber, regardless of what it says on his resume.

    I believe that spending 40% of your cap on a single player who is not truly All-NBA caliber is a great way to cripple your franchise for the duration of that contract, especially if you don't already have a legitimate All-NBA player to pair him with (Boston does. We don't.)
     
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    Hockey is my main squeeze. Guys can make a big difference (e.g. similar percentage of their team's points) but even then they're still rolling 4 lines so they play less overall minutes than the NBA.

    The problem is Jaylen Brown isn't a superstar. Time will tell how Boston does, it's possible that they can still field a good team and prove me wrong, but it's going to be very difficult.
     
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    Brown's been underrated most of his career. So, things have swung the other way. Regardless, it was time for him to get paid. No way the Celtcs were going to break these guys up now....mess with that window. Also, they weren't getting the kind of return that would make a deal worthwhile.
     
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    Ha Ha, word.
     
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    Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.

    But seriously, I agree Jalen Brown isn't a superstar. But he's all NBA. Ain't too many of those guys. He just happens to be up for this pay raise first. It's coming for more of them.
     
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    Lol yes, because having to play in the Saudi league has no downsides.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    Not really. Not technically.
     
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    So Brown is making 30 million dollars more than Joker? I hope Boston will eat his stupid contract for years to come. Brown is a nice player but no way he should command that 300 million dollars contract?
     
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    total sticker shock
     
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    Since salary cap smoothing was implemented into the latest CBA, the maximum the cap can increase year over year is 10%. Interestingly this 10% cap has already had an effect: 2022 - 2023 cap was $123.655M, 2023 - 2024 will be $136.021, which is an exact 10% increase year over year.

    The value of a max deal only increases 8% and is non-compounding, so a deal signed now is just going to be better relative to the cap than any one going forward.

    Jaylen Brown might be the top paid player in 2024 - 2025, but even by 2025, he'll be eclipsed by a lot of his peers. Just take a look at the below for players who might be supermax eligible, from the unlikely (needs to spike an All-NBA selection), to the exceedingly likely barring career-ending injury:

    2024: Likely: None, Unlikely: Siakam
    2025: Likely: Giannis, Tatum, Mitchell. Unlikely: Markkanen, Murray, Ingram. Max but not full 5-years: George, Leonard, Bron? Kyrie?
    2026: Likely: Fox, Gilgeous-Alexander. Unlikely: Adebayo, Bridges. Max but not full 5-years: Curry, Butler, Durant
    2027: Likely: Doncic, Embiid. Unlikely: Trae Young, Max but not full 5-years: Lillard

    Finally, here's the comparison between Jaylen's projected deal, what the annual supermax starting salary, and the designated rookie extension supermax salary (30% of the cap) will be over the lifetime of the deal.

    Right now, Y1 of a Jalen Green designated rookie extension in 2025 would only be about $7M less than Brown's deal. Once you shop at the top of the market, every salary starts to converge together, and these differences become relatively unimportant.

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    NBA Cap                 Jaylen Brown         Supermax         Rookie Max
    2023 136.021  $             28.51  $           47.61  $           40.81
    2024 149.623  $             52.37  $           52.37  $           44.89
    2025 164.585  $             56.56  $           57.60  $           49.38
    2026 181.044  $             60.75  $           63.37  $           54.31
    2027 199.148  $             64.94  $           69.70  $           59.74
    2028 219.063  $             69.13  $           76.67  $           65.72
    
     

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