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Rockets deal for Dillon Brooks (4 yrs/$86 million + incentives)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dr of Dunk, Jul 1, 2023.

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  1. T_Man

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    Every team needs a junk yard dog.. That player this is not going too back down, have your teammate back and ready to scrap...

    Detroit and Chicago both had Rodman...
    Houston had Chuck and Mario...

    I'm not excited with the salary, but when you look at how the salaries are playing out across the league who knows..

    T_Man
     
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  2. AXG

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    I still don't like the Brooks deal, but I don't hate it as much as I did initially. He should be fine the first two years. The Rockets had to spend money on someone and at least he is serviceable. Start of year 3 of his contract is when I would start to be concerned. By then, if not before, he should be relegated to being a bench player albeit an overpaid reserve. My hope is he accept his role.
     
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  3. Dr of Dunk

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    From : NBA free agency shenanigans: The eight nerdiest things that happened

    4. Rockets’ aggregation sign-and-trade for Dillon Brooks
    Perhaps the wildest tale of free agency is the entire construction of Houston’s free agency blitz. The Rockets ended up trading five second-round picks and cash just to build up a five-team sign-and-trade for Dillon Brooks, even though Houston had more than enough cap space to sign him without engineering such a monstrosity.

    So … what happened here? The tell is in the way Houston built this deal and the contract Brook Lopez signed with Milwaukee. The Rockets were rumored to be very close to a deal with Lopez, and the one he signed in Milwaukee was oddly front-loaded on money, which would have made sense for the Rockets but much less so for the Bucks … it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Bucks likely matched whatever Houston was offering at the last minute. (Perhaps with, “We’ll sign your barely playable twin brother” as the cherry on top.)

    If the Rockets had signed Lopez for $25 million and Fred VanVleet for $40 million, then they needed to put together a complex sign-and-trade to acquire Brooks because otherwise they weren’t going to have enough cap room.

    It appears Houston was well on its way to doing so via the rarely used tactic of under-the-cap salary aggregation. Veterans of the 2014 Ömer Aşık sign-and-trade to New Orleans, when the Pelicans spent several days scraping together the league’s assorted barrels for minimum guys to throw into the deal, may recognize what happened here.

    The nitty gritty: Normally you can’t trade for a player (such as Patty Mills), and then immediately aggregate him with other contracts (such as TyTy Washington, Usman Garuba, Patrick Christopher and Kenyon Martin Jr.) to trade for a higher-salaried player. League rules require teams to wait at least 90 days before that can happen.

    However, the fine print contains one exception: if a player is acquired with cap space. In that scenario, teams are free to aggregate immediately. So once the Rockets had a deal in place to acquire Mills, they could use him and the four players already on their roster, take advantage of the new CBA’s liberalized salary-matching bands, and be able to take Brooks back in a sign-and-trade even with a frontloaded contract.


    It cost the Rockets five second-round picks and cash to put this all together, however, (they got two back for Martin from the Clippers, but still), not to mention drop-kicking three recent first-round picks, and in the end that they didn’t even need the extra wiggle room once Lopez spurned them.

    Houston pivoted to using that space by inking Jeff Green and Jock Landale to be walking trade exceptions, with fairly large first-year salaries followed by non-guaranteed second seasons. (Landale’s runs four years and is only guaranteed for the first.) Green, in particular, was originally slated to go into the Rockets’ $7.3 million room exception but now will have a larger $9.6 million cap hit (including the maximum allowable 20 percent in incentives), enabling him to be used in a trade for up to $17 million in returning salary come January.
     
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    https://theathletic.com/4695570/2023/07/17/rockets-cam-whitmore-dillon-brooks-mailbag/

    Do you believe Ime Udoka will have success in reining in Dillon Brooks’ shot selection?

    Any efficiency jump from Dillon Brooks is more of a Fred VanVleet thing and an internal dialogue than any effect Ime Udoka has on the seventh-year wing. Looking at Brooks’ shot profile, it’s important to remember that while Second Spectrum tracking data doesn’t tell the entire story, it’s a good starting point. And history shows us Brooks fares much better taking catch-and-shoot 3s than pull-up ones.

    Dillon Brooks' Three-Pointers

    Year: 2022-23 | 2021-22 | 2020-21 | 2019-20
    Catch-and-Shoot: 35.6 | 33.8 | 38.6 | 38
    Pull Ups: 27.1 | 28.8 | 25 | 30.9

    Last season, Brooks took more 3-point shots off passes (3.9) than self-created ones (2.1), a trend that should continue when sharing the floor with VanVleet. When I spoke to Brooks in Las Vegas last week, one thing he noted was the impact the former Raptors point guard would have on his offensive efficiency, an area he’s fully aware he struggled with last season in Memphis. VanVleet is one of the game’s premier passers and has elite court vision. There’s a reason Houston’s brass felt it necessary to pay big money to land his services. VanVleet’s gravity and drive-and-kick ability are two much-needed lifts to this team’s floor and ceiling.

    “He finds ways to get guys open shots and I just gotta start knocking them down,” Brooks said. “That’s all. I can’t wait to play with Fred.”

    Houston was one of the worst 3-point shooting teams last season, and adding VanVleet, who finished 14th among NBA players in total 3s made, should help in that department, but it’s not a cure-all fix. Jalen Green and Jabari Smith Jr. need to be better. Alperen Şengün needs to continue to work on that part of his game. Ben Sullivan, who joined Udoka’s staff from Boston and who is currently serving as the Rockets summer league coach, is a boost both from a mechanics and logistics standpoint. But Udoka’s recalibrating of Houston’s offense — with increased ball and player movement that hopefully reduces Brooks’ 2s and increases his 3s — should come in handy.

    Who were the Rockets bidding against in order for Dillon Brooks to get such a lucrative, guaranteed four-year deal? Looking for insight on his above-market annual pay, the duration of the deal and no team option.

    To my knowledge, the Dallas Mavericks were said to be seriously in the mix for Brooks’ services. Milwaukee was also keeping close tabs on the situation on the off chance Khris Middleton took his talents elsewhere. Brooks also met with the Lakers, but there was no smooth pathway to acquiring him given their cap situation, unless the Lakers were prepared to go down the complex sign-and-trade path that Houston did.

    I understand there’s a portion of the Rockets fanbase that raised their eyebrows when the final terms of Brooks’ new deal were reported. He’s making similar money annually to players like Jordan Clarkson, Terry Rozier, Malcolm Brogdon and Bruce Brown. A team like Houston was always going to have to overpay to bring in players. It’s fine. At 27, Houston sees him as a good complement to the young group it’s growing and also the new veteran movement in full effect. He’s still at least two years away from his prime and is coming off an All-Defense season. The Rockets need all the defensive help they can muster up, and Brooks is a very good starting point. Offensively, there’s a genuine belief that surrounding him with VanVleet and Udoka can bring out the best in his game. Again, it’s fine. It’s also July. Let’s see how this team looks with Brooks 25 games in (or whatever sample size you deem appropriate).
     
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  5. ThatBoyNick

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    Wack ass contract don’t try to justify it lol
     
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    RIP Josh Christopher, and farewell to Patrick Christopher. @Williamson the disrespect is overwhelming - I hope you can recover.
     
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    So we’re gonna act like he didn’t play next to Ja? Ja couldn’t help his trash efficiency, but Frederick will? C’mon…
     
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    How about we wait and see if this unselfish, ego-less, new and improved Brooks actually exists before we congratulate him for it?
     
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    The good

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    The bad

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    Overall

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    Right now, the good slightly outweighs the bad, but it's close.

    The good is getting better, the bad is getting worse.

    If we can get Brooks to buy in and limit his offensive role to catch and shoot 3's and literally nothing else, maybe he can turn things around, but if he keeps demanding a larger role on offense, things will be more complicated.
     
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    Wack ass player.
     
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    Don’t like him. Hate the contract. Will begrudgingly root for him. Will give him a chance to win me over. We’ll see.
     
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    The thing I don't get about Brooks is he is regarded as a good defender but advanced stats are not kind to him at all. I know defensive advanced stats are not totally reliable but still you'd expect some to show some kind of major benefit with his defense but they never do.


    ....at least FVV's advanced stats on that site look great
     
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    Well, they are higher on him than I am.
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    #1195 Bobbythegreat, Jul 17, 2023
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    Maybe the performance incentives are low number of shots and efficiency.
     
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    Will be the most overpaid bench player next season when Tari/Cam overtakes him.
     
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    But none of those teams could offer more than $12 per year. I get an overpay, but nearly twice as much as the next competitor!?
     
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    insider info said the sharks wanted to pay him 18/year so firestone did what he had to do.
     
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