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[2023 NBA Draft/1-20] Cam Whitmore, F, Villanova

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 22, 2023.

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Do you like the selection of Cam Whitmore?

Poll closed Jun 21, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    So? Cam has brute strength which allowed him to go finish better on broken plays.

    The skill gap between Cam and Green isn't the same as the skill gap between *superstsr* and Cam.

    Like I said just look at their SL performance 2023 Cam would lock up 2021 Green straight up.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    It's big enough.

    Dude if 19 year old Cam and 19 year old Green were in the same draft, Green is always getting drafted higher for a reason. He's a far more skilled player while being more explosive with another level of lateral shiftiness and acceleration than whitmore.whilenbeing only maybe an inch taller than most and possibly even a longer wingspan than Whitmore.
     
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  3. roslolian

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    All I said is Cam is younger than Jalen and you said they are the same age. Who lied me or you?
     
  4. Noob Cake

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    At this point Cam might end up better than Green if both are basically isolation scorerer types.

    Whitmore is a damn good blue chip prospect on the same level as Green, Sengun and Jabari. Though some of us have historically been very low on Green and his archtype.
     
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  5. roslolian

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    Yeah while also being 20 pounds weaker than Whitmore.

    Whitmore can learn skills the same way Green learned his skills but Green will never be the elite defensive player Whitmore can be. He doesn't even have the inclination to play defense was a defensive sieve in both GLeague and NBA so far.
     
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  6. fchowd0311

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    You said he's a year younger. And you said it to make a point as if it matters. He isn't a year younger. They were both "one and done types".
     
  7. ThatBoyNick

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    11 assists in 5 games

    People where saying this was a huge deal, a huge flaw, I haven't seen a "historically low assist" player yet...
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    Who says he's historically bad? People are referring to in the reference of if it's a positive trait. Not where he's "historically" bad at something. What? Jaylen Brown isn't "historically bad" with tunnel vision. It's just in the grand scheme of players at his level it's below average.
     
  9. roslolian

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    I didn't say a year younger I said younger it's there in my post you have it quoted.

    You are the one who said a year younger you made your own strawman argument then started arguing against yourself.
     
  10. roslolian

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    It's based on his college where had 19 total ast in 26 games.
     
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  11. ThatBoyNick

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    Scouts noted his college assist rate was historically low for a wing, which is just a stat and a fact.

    Looks like it was a fluke though, or just the system/role he was in, he's been making solid reads in summer league, hasn't even looked below average
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    That's great. It's a positive sign but how big of a positive sign given a 5 game sample size and it being the summer league, where teams are assembled the week prior to the first game where new players have no unit cohesion. Go look at Chet's 25 pt game. And see how often 6'5" guards switched on to him in rolling to the rim for a easy slam?
     
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    He was injured to start the season (approx first 7 games)
    so he mostly came off the bench.

    Often second unit guys are asked to be more microwave
    scorer than pass more players.
     
  14. Little Bit

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    Yea, his handles aren’t good enough yet. He’s better as a finisher and a cutter.
     
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    Check it out one more time, this boy ain't gonna please nobody w/ his smiles
     
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    Just chiming in again to say that, as one of the guys greatly concerned about Cam's passing ability (or lack thereof), I'm definitely happy that my fears were likely unwarranted. He's not exactly putting up big time playmaking numbers (think he's ~10.7 AST%), but this is substantially better than his college numbers (could be slightly better if some guys converted on his passes and/or if his execution on some passes were a bit better). I was concerned he'd be a black hole, super tunnel vision guy, but that doesn't appear to be the case. He's actually made some passes already that I'm not sure he made in college. He chucks a fair bit, but even then, he's not taking 30+ shots a game, which I thought might have been a possibility when the other main guys were pulled from the roster.

    So I'm not greatly concerned about that anymore (unless he regresses with NBA/G League minutes). He still needs a lot of work, but that work mostly seems to involve stuff that you'd expect with a (barely) 19 year old that missed substantial time the last couple of years. Ball handling, shot selection, making quicker decisions, etc. All stuff that likely develops fairly naturally with more reps, and improving those things will likely improve his playmaking as well (though again, he'll likely never be some elite playmaker, but he should be good enough).
     
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    I am thinking Vinnie Johnson role. The challenge will be is he willing to be a secondary scorer off the bench. While it's obvious he has that microwave scoring mentality, his ego may want more, and not sure he can get more here. Think it's going to be a tough fit for him over the long haul.
     
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    And he shouldn't have to, he ain't here to smile, he is here to kick ass on the court.
     
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    I try not to over value summer league - but Cam Whitmore has looked very good and it isn’t the numbers, it how he has played and how his athleticism has carried over.

    He has a long way to go, and may not play a lot early, but if the draft were held tomorrow, he wouldn’t be going at #20.
     
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