[Feigen] Trades today to be combined into one large trade (possible $21m more in capspace)

Isn't he referring to the center though, Robert Williams? I guess we can call Grant a SG/SF/PF type I'm sure.

 

Grant Williams is pretty much a SF/PF, maybe if you went big he could play SG.
He’s really more in the Tate role of undersized PF

 

Good luck ever trading Dillon Brooks as nobody wanted him in the first place (see Memphis). Rockets are hemorrhaging money. Just an awful day yesterday that took this franchise back several years in the rebuild. Trading KMJ to the Clips for two back end second round picks is the worst trade in team history and will cost us dearly in the long run. Funny thing is we gave 80 million to slow unathletic locker room cancer Brooks when 10 out of 10 teams (other than our bonehead moron Rockets) would’ve taken KMJ over Brooks easily.

 

Good luck ever trading Dillon Brooks as nobody wanted him in the first place (see Memphis). Rockets are hemorrhaging money. Just an awful day yesterday that took this franchise back several years in the rebuild. Trading KMJ to the Clips for two back end second round picks is the worst trade in team history and will cost us dearly in the long run. Funny thing is we gave 80 million to slow unathletic locker room cancer Brooks when 10 out of 10 teams (other than our bonehead moron Rockets) would’ve taken KMJ over Brooks easily.

 

K no 3 and no D MJ is going to single handedly do all of that?

And I liked KMJ. He needs desperately to work on his 3 and D, which seemed like real possibility with Ukoka’s staff. I would have much rather kept KMJ one year but his contract sitch called for immediate action.

 

Holy crap. The drama and hyperbole in the GARM in the last 24 hours is getting out of hand and this post is Exhibit A of that. You guys seriously need to chill out.
1. "Nobody wanted Brooks." False. Multiple teams were expected to meet with him according to reports in the first 24 hours of free agency.
2. "Rockets are hemorrhaging money." Also completely false. The only long-term, "bad" contract they've given out at this point is the Brooks deal. FVV is a two-year contract, and we don't even know the details of the Brooks deal yet. But while I didn't love it, I expected he would probably get $15M a year. Considering what other defensive specialists got in this free agency class (Draymond, Brown), it's not the dramatic overpay you're making it out to be. Overall, the Rockets still have an incredibly friendly cap situation with mostly guys on rookie contracts and 1-2 year deals.
3."Trading KMJ for two second rounders is the worst trade in team history." And this is easily the worst statement of all that I've seen since yesterday. Are you kidding me? A role player with one year left on his contract getting two second rounders is fair value. It's exactly what OJ Toppin netted the Knicks, and he has a higher upside. This is the same franchise that traded Paul for Westbrook and a million first round draft picks. Not only is not remotely the worst trade in franchise history; it's not even that bad of a trade. It's not even the worst part of the deals they made yesterday; dropping Garuba and TyTy was much worse.

Look, guys, I'm not a Stone apologist. I don't love every deal that went down in the last 48 hours. But overall, I'm generally OK with it. I think they could have gotten more for the young pieces than they got, but teams weren't knocking down our door to add TyTy, Christopher, etc. The team clearly wanted to be more competitive next season, and this was a necessary step in that happening. I'm also disappointed they didn't get Lopez, but that was out of their hands and he's a very unique player who was going to be hard to find a legitimate Plan B for that would have satisfied everything he does.

Bottom line, the whining is getting out of hand. The same people complaining about the consolidation were likely the same people begging for consolidation two days ago. The same people complaining about Brooks would have been pissed if the Rockets hadn't added any elite defenders this free agency period. This roster's not perfect, but it's a lot more competitive than it was 48 hours ago. Calm down and let it all play out. If it's a dumpster fire in a couple of years, there will be no shortage of opportunities to say "I told you so."

 

Why do y’all keep saying FVF is a two year deal. I’m only reading that from posters on this site…. It’s a 3 year fully guaranteed deal. Stop spreading that false information

 

It is a little much, but overall if you take a step back to look at free agency (thus far) in a nutshell it’s a cautionary tale of a GM and new owner wreaking of desperation. A good and secure GM like Presti, Ainge, Morey, etc. would have not been so hasty and stayed the course. They would have seen the free agency class upcoming and instead made deals at the deadline last season to take on salary of veteran players instead of putting themselves in a situation where they HAD TO sign a bunch of people and also had to clear young talent just for roster spots.

What this team was ready for was yes…a FVV signing but other than that maybe just a mid level
veteran who might or might not start. It’s complete desperation, but are they the “worst trades and signings ever”…. Meh. Not really.

 

It's been confirmed multiple times at this point, including by Clutch. Where are you reading otherwise?

 

THAT changes things dramatically. Totally different situation. Much easier to live with, even abide by.

Now, if we use that 22,000,000.00 wisely...on a big.

 

@mac_got_this got cucked bad already. Leave him alone.

 

I don't like immature players with attitude problems.

 

well that's inconvenient

 

How? Or are you joking?

 

for this guy

 

Because the third year is a team option.

 

Rockets got two top five draft picks (including Cam) and signed FVV and Brooks without having to give up any assets. Keep in mind that if other teams would have accepted the Rockets proposed trades to get a lower draft pick so Rockets could pick Cam earlier than #20 then KMJ and/or Garuba, TyTy, (future picks) etc would have most likely been gone the night of the draft.

KMJ is good but his production is replaceable. The Rockets are obviously doing their best to improve relationships with agents (Rich Paul etc) while improving the roster as well. Whether people like the moves or not, they're a better team and I don't think they're done.

 

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