The Stone is a Good Drafter Narrative Needs to Die

I’m not saying he’s not a good drafter but yeah, that narrative was weird AF. Just because so many people here love Jalens pretty hair or think Sengun is Dr. cool doesn’t mean Jack. Until they’ve proven to be stars, it’s an incomplete.
Stone is still a new GM. Giving a firm opinion on his drafts so far would be silly.

 

It's way too quick to judge how well stone drafting ability is.

We gave up too quick on tyty and garuba for Jack sht.

Grade is still pending for the rest. To me he's a better drafter than free agent signer that's for sure.

 

Looks to me like you're complaining that Stone's late draft picks end up with a value of late draft picks. Those guys ALL played well enough to justify getting drafted, and KJM played well enough to start for a horrible team.

Criticize Stone's top draft picks if you want, or complain that he didn't get enough in return when he traded the later picks, but most of his draft picks have made the team. That's more rare than you'd think.

 

The verdict is still out on Green and Jabari. Sengun and Tari were huge hits. Garuba, Christopher and TyTy so far don’t look great, but I saw real growth from Garuba, and TyTy honestly hasn’t had much of an opportunity to show what he can do. KJ was a hit in the 2nd round, but Stone could only turn him into two 2nd rounders, so a small win there.

I’d say the verdict is still out on Stone’s drafting prowess.

 

this whole thread is a not-so-thinly-veiled Stone-drafted-Sengun-therefore-he-is-a-loser-GM thread

 

Not that I think Stone is a great drafter but you should look into the success rate of late 1st round picks. It’s really really low. Most of those picks are expected to not be contributors. The odds are not good. If anything you should criticize the fact that we really didn’t even give these guys a chance (playing Nix over Tyty?) rather than them not working out. The far bigger mistake is the mismanagement, not the drafting.

 

Stone can't negotiate contracts nor draft...bring Morey back

 

We wasted a season playing mathews, nix heavy mins just to throw away garuba, tyty and jc for Jack sht.

 

Mobley, Ivey > Green, Jabari

 

Lot of dumb ****ing threads getting started these days.

 

Sengun and Tari are both great picks at their position.

Green and Jabari are meh only because they were essentially drafted at exact positions they were projected to be

 

You forgot Eason. So, in three drafts, he found six guys with potential? Seems pretty good to me. I feel like people on this board severely overestimate the hit rate of draft picks, especially late round picks.

 

Stupid threads like these need to die. Just because you don’t like the moves stone does/did doesn’t mean he is bad a drafter

 

Stone had a macro plan of getting enough draft picks that allowed him more swings at the plate from all different positions in the draft. This strategy allows for misses. Although, I wouldn't call KMJ, Tyty misses... just mismanaged (if we just gave them away for nothing). It seems we already have a plan for the additional cap space we've created through this complex multi-team S&T so I am still holding out judgement on whether or not we gave them away for nothing. Sometimes 1 trade that allows another move needs be evaluated as a whole and not independently

So far I've been really happy with his draft selections

 

By the way, with respect to our picks in the top 20, I wouldn't have done anything differently than Stone.

I would have taken Green at 2 (though this is my most doubtful pick). I would have taken Sengun at 18. I would have taken Smith at 3, and I would have taken Eason at 17. I would have taken Amen at 4, and I would have taken Whitmore at 20.

That's our young core. Will any of them develop into stars? I have no idea, but I know that all of these picks made sense at the time, and all were either solid or great value.

 

Same

 

I think we should become the first fan GM oriented team. We make decisions based on polls of those who have been around since a certain year, or enough positive Rockets related posts to know we're actually fans and not being trolled.

 

Literally, Stone is an apprentice for gm position in this circus, his learning curve has been incredibly sharp, we can see he made various mistakes, one of mistake is poor (talent) assets management - allowing silas to sitting tyty n garuba (two first rounders) for one F year, that makes ppl got zero opportunity to objectively evaluate the two young prospects, no chance to understand wht they could've helped this team…now both gone, tho im high on those vets we've recruited, but costs are extraordinarily high.
All costs can be deemed as a tuition for our newbie gm, one day tilman's gonna ask him pay back.

 

What has Morey ever won?