man, i haven't seen an mfgarza post in forever. no. you can't combine the TE with a player to add up to another player's contract. however, our TE is big enough to simply take on mutombo's salary (6.9 vs 4.5). however, either we don't want to take on that much salary or chicago wants pike enough that they won't just give up mutombo for nothing. and we would have to throw in some small price scrub like AG to make it work (i think that works but can't remember AG's salary). i'd be perfectly fine having mutombo on board. i thought he was more washed up than he was, but after looking at his stats he's pretty much exactly what we want. we all seem to want a cato clone to bang and get rebounds and mutombo and cato's stats pretty much are clones of each other. games: M 65 C 69 minutes: M 23.0 C 25.3 ft%: M 68.1 C 67.6 (just threw this in b/c they were real close) points: M 5.6 C 6.1 rebounds: M 6.7 C 6.8 blocks: M 1.9 C 1.4 (nice advantage to mutombo) so if we can pick up mutombo while barely adding salary and get our cato replacement at half the price for one season, i'm all for it.
Forget about anymore trades, just keep T Mac ,Yao and sign the entire Italian team for the 2004-2005 season. Unstoppable!
Whether its Mutombo for Pike, or Frank Williams for Pike, I'd be happy...Williams showed a lotta potential in New York last season before they acquired Marbury...
if we trade pike for mutombo, then we'll have gaines/griffin as backup sgs, id rather do pike for frank, because IMO, we need a pg much more than a backup C, we have 3 pfs, 1 of them can play center while yaos on the bench, i mean Centers dont rule the nba like they used to, the only dominant centers in the league that we have to worry about is shaq...and thats abt it, so IMO one of the three powerforwards can play center while yaos on the bench, so we shouldnt trade away pike for mutombo, but instead decide to keep him n sign a FA, or trade him for frank, who IMO would be more valuable to us.
I think that's only true if the player you're trading for has a salary bigger than the trade exception. Like for instance, trading Pike (2.7 mil.) + the 6.9 trade exception for a player with a salary of 9.6 mil would not be allowed. But trading Pike and the trade exception for a contract smaller than 6.9 mil is ok.
Mutombo would be a great fit, especially in a slowed-down half court offense, which is what we normally do to get Yao more involved. I don't like the idea of bringing in Othella here. Thats exactly what happened to the Knicks, a whole bunch of fours and nowhere to put them. Unfortunately in trades, we cannot combine the trade exception with players.
CD if you pull this off Exec of the year is in the bag my friend..... Perfect...not a flaw in the way, and Chi manangement is desperate as hell and trigger happy because there current team is gonna get Paxson shelled by the All star break..... I don't know guys....Chandler and Hinrich are not out of the question in this scenario.......There have the biggest logjam at all the positions we need....but hell Williams and Mutombo would suit me just great....... CD FOR PRESIDENT.....
Man you have got to be kidding me if you think CD can make that trade happen. Quit dreaming. Right now I'm already pissed and when training camp starts I will be even more pissed. The Rockets need a new GM.
Com'on guys. Mutombo is not someone who can play 10+ minutes a game at this stage of his career. He is too slow to guard 98% of today's big man in this league, and he couldn't do a sh*t on offense. Plus, we don't want Yao to miss games because of Mutombo's elbow during the practice. On the other hand, any of Chicago's guard will be nice...
If We can trade for Mutumbo and put Badiane on the roster we should be set for bigs. We would be short a PG but could go with what we've got.
I have two names for you. Earl Cureton and Charles Jones. I mean seriously, do we really need a backup center anyway. Whoever we get is totally irrelevant. Mutombo would do just fine. and so would any other 40 year old scrub.
They'd work fine if we had the Hakeem of 94 at center. We don't. We have a Yao Ming that frequently gets tired and in foul trouble. We need a decent back up.
ok question. so in essence are you just trading for mutombo with the TE and then using the TE chicago gets from that to trade for piatkowski? actually two separate trades reported as one? or is it actually just allowed as one trade since mutombo is under our TE. and if it is two trades as one, then is our TE actually broken up into the part not used on mutombo that lasts for another month or so and the new TE from the piatkowski trade that lasts a year from the deal. Com'on guys. Mutombo is not someone who can play 10+ minutes a game at this stage of his career yeah, he can play 23.0 minutes a game. and have almost the same stats as cato. perhaps you should read the thread.
key word is backup my friend...and if you don't think Deke can play 20 intimidating minutes a game you have got to be smokin something......30, 40, hell 50 he's still 7' 2" and a shot blocker by nature........
Yes and no. From Houston's side of the deal it's two trades. Mutumbo would complete the non-simultaneous Glen Rice trade (i.e. the TE). The remaining simultaneous portion of the deal is Pike out and nothing back ($0). You are always allowed to take back less salary, so that part works. From Chicago's side it's only considered a single deal. Mutumbo out and Pike in. They're taking back less salary, so it works.
