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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    Scary to think that Prigozhin is handed Belarus as appeasement since Lukashenko could be out the door for natural or unnatural health reasons
     
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  2. superfob

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    Count down to falling out a window.
     
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    I think I know what you're trying to say here, and I agree.


    What's crazy is that Putin just sent the unrest to his puppet neighbor.

    One of Lukashenko or Prigozhin don't make it out of this alive.
     
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  4. Space Ghost

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    ok?
    Are you suggesting the US would not attempt to influence a coup in Russia? (that is a rhetorical question)

    I personally believe the US should attempt to influence a coup and remove Putin if the opportunity was given. Does this mean I hate America?
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    Again, a sitting congressman suggested the US was behind a coup.
     
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  6. Ottomaton

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    Putin wasn't going to send him anywhere where he couldn't reel him back in at a moments notice. God forbid, he went to Brussels and spilled all the dirt to NATO.

    Belarus is far enough away that is seems like he's been exiled, but close enough that he's still firmly under the Kremlin's thumb. Heck, Rostov is only nominally part of Russia to the elites in Moscow. Halfway surprised they didn't just leave him where he was, but I guess Belarus has a border guard that will keep him from sneaking back to Moscow or St. Petersburg.
     
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  7. DonnyMost

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    putin doesn't cut deals. home skillet drew blood on the king. only a matter of time before somebody lands the KO.
     
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    Belarus have nukes provided by Russia. Is this a charade to allow a rogue Prigozhin to use them on Ukraine?
     
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    The second he steps foot outside of a Russian controlled country he gets arrested, tried and executed for war crimes. So no, I'd guess he'll stay put until Putin decides to assassinate him.
     
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  11. NewRoxFan

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    Prighozin backed down, because not enough people joined him and he realized he had no chance to succeed?
     
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    Yea, I mean, like lots of coups/revolutions, the initiators are expecting/hoping/needing other elements (military/influential persons/ethnic groups etc) to rally to their banner quickly to be a serious threat to the ruling regime.... Prigozhin didn't get that or enough of that and took the deal Putin offered ... sensible.
     
  15. Agent94

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    This aged well. What did we learn? When your coup attempt isn't well thought out and you don't have enough support, you mill about, break a few things, tell your followers to go home and end up looking like an idiot. And nothing happens to the leader of the coup if he has enough power.
     
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    Are we talking about 1/6/21 or the current Russian crisis?
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    I haven’t been following much of the news the last two days but this is pretty crazy. It’s bizzare to begin with that a nuclear armed
    Country who is permanent member of the security council was relying so much in a private military. That the leader of such a private military tried a coup then doesn’t seem so surprising. That it ended with him going to a vassal state and pulling his troops without this ending in success or a bloodbath seem odd but fitting for the whole situation.
     
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    Me agreeing with Mike Pompeo on something:
     
  19. B-Bob

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    Would a Stalin-like leader go to the trouble to run a fake "coup" via a trusted colleague to flush out all the people willing to rise up against the dictator? I know the term "false flag" has earned a bad name from over-use, but the weird and gentle "outcome" of this caper does lead me to wonder about it.

    If the mercenary isn't dead within a month from a mysterious neurotoxin or fall from a window, I will become even more suspicious about this "coup."

    #tinfoildeployed
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    There are a lot of weird things about this coup but we live in very strange times.

    At this point I don’t really have a good sense of was this a real coup or something else..
     
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