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Christianity: Why Try to Save Earth When Afterlife Is Real?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dmoneybangbang, Jun 5, 2023.

  1. CCorn

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    I’m Mr. Kemah now. So I’m all about walling off the bayshore area
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Or at least stop treating them like some privileged class.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    They are going to lose the middle of the country on this one.
     
  4. DFWRocket

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    End-time theology is the worst Christian false doctrine. It's literally less than 200 year old theology but it is a huge part of all Evangelical and fundamentalists beliefs. It creates a suspicion for new technology (in the 90's someone literally told me that the antichrist was supposed to come "through the internet"..which is the same thing they said about TVs and radios before that). It creates suspicion for medicine (the COVID vaccine will inject you with a microchip and is the mark of the beast). It creates suspicion for global cooperations (Joining The WHO will give away the U.S. governments autonomy and is the first step to the New World Order - literally Michelle Bachman current crusade). Despite the fact that as global poverty, diseases, crime and wars continue to decrease Fundementalists will always believe that it's actually getting worse..because thats what end-times theology teaches will happen.

    When Revelations was written in the 1st Century, apocalyptic literature was a very popular form of fiction. It was like SciFi in the 1950s. People read it as an escape. Especially Christians who were literally being persecuted and needed some hope. Revelation was just one of many apocalyptic books at the time. It was an allegorical story written about Nero's reign. was never meant to be read as prophetic. The prophetic interpretation of Revelation did not gain any traction until the early 1830s. In the long-history of Christianity, end-times theology is brand-new.
     
  5. Space Ghost

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    Christian Eschatology is pure evil.

    In fairness to Evangelicals, some take it more serious than others.
     
  6. No Worries

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    This is not right.
    Jesus, thus, is failed profit ... much like the Bozos who profitized that Trump would beat Biden in 2020.

    When the NT was being canonized, The Book of Revelations made the final cut, due to the end-timers of that time.
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    Im guessing your “family values” doesn’t take future families into account…. Obviously not families that allow any type of non heterosexual behavior.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    keep guessing
     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    I can only go by your rhetoric….

    Anti woke….

    Anti climate change….

    Pro “family values”.

    You are what you argue
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    If the afterlife is real, you'd also expect to see mass suicides by christians to hurry up and get there, but (apart from a couple of cults) you don't see that. The great majority of christians don't see the afterlife as an excuse to engage in nihilism or hedonism. In the epistles, Paul addresses this argument's cousin -- if our sins are forgiven, why don't we sin more? (Romans 6) -- and says on the contrary that we are free from the mastery of sin because of the crucifixion, so we should (try to) sin less. So if the sin we're talking about here is the destruction of the earth, the promise of eternal life should make the faithful care for the planet more, not less.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Religion been destroying earth and humans for thousands of years....it is a rot and a cancer to humanity.

    DD
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    Why would harris faulner make this up?



    I usually pray at restaurants I eat at. Fast food, fancy/expensive, all types of restaurants. I have never had anyone comment towards me/us in any way. Heck, I have been in groups that will even ask the server to join us in prayer. What broke inside faulkner that she would make this up...
     
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  13. dobro1229

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    If you don't take it serious then what's the point? Tell yourself that you're a good person because you identify as a holy roller, but when nobody's looking you live like Trump in the 80's?... (or worse Trump in the 2020's)

    And you wonder why the church's credibility is declining around the world because everyone that isn't a church goer thinks they are all hypocrites.

    And it's funny that you of course flout hypocrisy as some sort of virtue.
     
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  14. Space Ghost

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    People often join churches to connect with other people. Not all churches are bad. Not all churches are good. And the churches can have a mix of good or bad people.

    Nothing to do with Trump or hypocrisy
     
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  15. No Worries

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    Early Christian patriarchs believed in "the principle that deceit for a righteous end is often salutary and justifiable" in promoting their religion. Faulkner is just following in their foot steps, albeit 1800 years later.
     
  16. dobro1229

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    No I’d say the perception of hypocrisy is the number one reason why Christianity and church attendance has been on the steady decline for years. It’s the big issue of our time in terms of religion in America.

    And in regard to Trump, he actually is a pretty important symptom of the problem. Even though I was only using his name as an analogy which is something you notoriously do here. Take an analogy literally to confuse the argument or prove that you are incapable of understanding analogy.

    (Ex: “it would be like if Mexico was to invade the US”
    -SpaceGhost - “but…there’s no evidence that Mexico is preparing to invade the US”

    No sh$t Sherlock.)
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    Also suicide is a sin which would rule out taking that route to get to Heaven
     
  18. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    What about assisted suicide?
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I have nothing against religion or believing in god or praying whenever or wherever you want to pray (except if you are holding people up). Religion is something most people need to feel less despair about their lives and death - we are evolved to be religious (or spiritual if you prefer that).

    What I don't like is when people use their beliefs to push their values onto other people.

    Christianity is a masterful religion. You don't have to behave so long as you accept Jesus and ask god for forgiveness, you'll always be accepted and can get to Heaven. It's absolutely brilliant.

    It's too bad the 10 commandments did not have a "thou shalt not leave a mess without cleaning it up" commandment.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    My understanding is that many Christian denominations still consider that a sin. Opposition to assisted suicide laws has often been led by the Catholic and other churches.
     

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