All of Amen Thompson’s makes and misses from 3 at OTE

Maybe

 

It’s intriguing to me how teams evaluate and that’s why they do their due diligence conducting psychological and personality assessments, researching players’ backgrounds, and social circles etc.

 

Ya’ll go easy on Amen, he’s obviously a 2-3 year project regarding his shot. If he’s picked it’s because his athleticism and passing is deemed all-NBA potential. We have no say in the matter so must trust the process

 

Most of the guys I listed did not improve as shooters. Giannis literally had his highest percentage as a rookie. Wade has a lower percentage for his career than as a rookie, Parker almost the same. 31% from deep from Fultz is still a liability, but sure it's better than what he was doing before.

I wasn't sure what you meant when you said there were no examples of people improving their feel/passing skills, whereas there are multiple examples of people improving their shooting. Now I know what you mean. Any slight jump in 3pt% means improvement as a shooter. Whereas Jimmy, Kawhi, and Booker can literally 3-4x their AST% while decreasing their TO% and it's because they were always good, or simply because their usage increased. Who cares how much better Kawhi and Butler are now in AST% and TO% vs previous high usage years, they were always good! This is a clear example of how hard it is to measure improvement in feel/passing vs shooting. You have much higher standards for the former than you do the latter.

 

YUCK. Man. I'm going through such a rollercoaster ride since lottery night. I think i've been in denial that i was okay with #4, but i'm not. Talked myself into thinking Amen could be like Penny, he's got the size advantage and athleticism. He's got the floater. He's got the acrobatic in air passes and vision. But, you can have 9 things in common, if one of those differences is a broken shooting form-you're never going to be half the player the comp was.

Cam Whitmore? Maybe i'm just being too pessimist at this point, but i see Corey Maggette. Certainly a VERY good 3rd or 4th option if the rest of our young players take big leaps into all-star stardom, but i went into this entire awful year thinking we'd get a potential megastar and leader.

If Miller falls, he's obviously not squeaky clean of character that you'd like, but i see a tweener 2/3 with t-rex arms and a front of body shot put form that won't succeed without much space in the NBA that he doesn't have the first step or handle to create.

 

How exactly will Thompson make these guys shoot better when they were missing wide open shots to begin with? Same with Henderson another PG who cant shoot? Sengun is going to take a more prominent role in distribution next year if not be the main hub there so not sure a pass first PG is even necessary. We have athletes out the ass on the roster we need some bonafide specialists. If you had relevant shooters you could theoretically find a pass first/defensive PG on the free agent market if still inclined. Thats why I say there has to be a more focused vision as to how this team is going to move forward and the player totem that Udoka will devote the PT towards. If a trade up is what is in the works I'd rather it be for Brandon Miller even though his legal issues give me reason to pass, but that type of player is where I would want to trend.

 

My bad misread it.

 

Brandon Miller has a 7'0-7'1 wingspan. "T-rex arms". when some of yall reference "I see". It's clearly not reality

 

I disagree the investment this team has made in Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, Alperen Sengun dictates that THEY should be given the developmental lead with Udoka. I'll be curious to see what happens on draft night because while Stone is saying BPA - he's also said that Udoka will have a big part in who they bring in. What do you think Udoka will value most?

 

Because Amen Thompson excels in transition and getting players buckets in transition. Also, if Green and Smith don't hit open shots next year, nothing else will matter. Neither of them are valuable if they cannot hit open long range shots, that is a big part of why they were drafted.

Henderson is fine as a shooter.

I don't agree, Sengun is not going to run the Rockets offense and they desperately need a real point guard. I am not even sure that Sengun is going to see an increase in minutes next year with Udoka, that requires bigs that can defend and switch well. Those are not the strengths of Sengun.

No, the Rockets need more really good basketball players and a franchise player.

The Rockets are unlikely to find a 6'7" point guard with a 7'0" wingspan that can cover three spots at a high level and is a high level passer.

Miller is an okay defender, but adding him even causes some issues defensively as the Rockets need prominent players that can defend.

 

Defense and size

 

So would you say Amen Thompson trends towards a Ben Simmons model? If so Im not sure that makes me feel any better.

 

I have compared him to Larry Hughes who was drafted 8 in 1998 and highly touted. Hughes couldn’t shoot or pass but was a superb ball handler and athlete. But Amen seems to be more explosive than Hughes and better court awareness and playmaking ability combined with a 6’7 frame making him a versatile player. I think this is why he intrigues a lot of teams.

 

So a 6'9 rim protecting wing who shoots 40% from 3 might be a good pickup?

 

If we want a big PG, we should go after Anthony Black, who doesn't have Amen's explosiveness, but has at least a workable J, has played and proven his passing/defense against legitimate competition, is a year younger and would improve ball-movement immediately.

I'd be down to look at moving #4 and #20 to Orlando for #6 and #11.

Grab Black at #6 and one of the many Wings available (preferably one who can shoot) at #11 -- Gradey Dick? Brice Sensabaugh?

 

random CF's makes up there silly/dumb narratives and pass it on as facts. but it just solidifies the fact that a lot of these folks have no idea what they're talking about

Examples of "I see" "I've watched" means next to nothing. you can do all that and still be wrong

PG13 has a wingspan reportedly of 6'11. T rex arms! oh wait

 

I don't understand how we can be building around those 3 and then say we have to prioritize shooting. Green and Jabari aren't worth building around if they aren't going to be great shooters. If you are building around them a large wing with playmaking and defense is the good fit.

I think Udoka will want BPA. That's the best way to draft in almost any scenario. You draft for fit and you often end up with Wiseman situations.

 

I know, this is what you or someone else told me but then he didn't measure officially is what i'm also told. Eye test, his arms look really short. They certainly don't look 7-1. I could buy 6'11 for a 6'9 player which is traditionally a good wingspan but small for a guy that height. I also don't buy 6'9 fully. More like a bit over 6'8 in shoes. Where's the official measurements and why won't they let themselves be measured if nothing to fear?
Reality isn't being told something and just believing it's true. You're the die hard Harden guy right?

 

6'11. Much closer to what Miller's arms look like, except shorter looking if he's truly taller than PG. Yall taking "t-rex arms'' too literal. Lighten up. He's not Desmond Bane. Next time, i'll just say i have a preference for long wingspans relative to height and make fun of your mirco D instead? Better?