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Do Not Trade The 4th Pick! Draft A Top 4 Prospect

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CHAMPBOY, May 29, 2023.

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Trade the Pick of Draft the Prospect?

  1. Trade The Pick

    32 vote(s)
    27.6%
  2. Draft the Prospect

    84 vote(s)
    72.4%
  1. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

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    I’m bookmarking this post to show how utterly wrong you are in the future. I will do it repeatedly too.

    Good day sir.
     
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  2. tycoonchip

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    This!
    I'll give Jabari a pass being that he is a rookie and a bigman (usually takes longer to develop). I'm not at all impressed with Jalen Green. Sengun seems like the best player we drafted out of that year but that isn't saying much being that our 2nd pick is mediocre.
    Unless we're getting a Wemby or a Scoot that 4th pick seems to be giving us another pretty mediocre player. This team 100% needs to make some moves.
     
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  3. Os Trigonum

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    dumb list
     
  4. CHAMPBOY

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    Jalen Green is a true STAR, in his second year he averaged 22 points a game….his shooting percentage was horrible(41% and 33% on 3 point line) and he did not compete on defense…..with a hard nose coach and veterans around him he will play better defense and with Harden as our POINT GUARD and no more….my turn your turn offense scheme….
     
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  5. CHAMPBOY

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    We need to draft Amen….he has elite talent. Sengun is a top 10 talent in the last 3 draft. I believe Green and Mobley will be the top 2 players in that draft….honestly I do not know what to say about Jabari
     
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  6. BallSoHarden

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    What does it say? You think Josh Christopher is going to be a star? I'll bookmark it as well. lmao. Other than stating the fact of what GMs are picking in a redraft, the post is mostly just facts at a specific point in time of what votes were not made for ROY and where Jalen WAS in a redraft, unless you have issues with reading comprehension, or truly do think Christopher will be a super star. I love how clowns like you think you really did something, but failed standardized tests in grade school. Saying no to the current ROY and SGA...oof
     
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  7. peleincubus

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    Yeah man your entire was only data and facts. I’ll bump your comment down the line.

    ps thanks for the insult.
     
  8. tycoonchip

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    In what world? He literally does nothing else but shoot the ball. If he's shooting well, might win us a game. If he's not shooting well it's just a bunch of empty stats on the WORST NBA Team! His trade value is only based on "potential" that is all. If portland or Charlotte offers Scoot for Green it is absolutely a no brainer.
     
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  9. BallSoHarden

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    You are welcome, I have a history of never instigating on here, but when some clown like you comes along every once in a while looking to pick fights, i'll happily prove how you know nothing over the course of time, so good job on starting that. Am I supposed to be scared you will bump my comments? oh no!
     
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  10. peleincubus

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    Scared? uhm no. By the way there have been studies that show that individuals that insult other people online (chats, message boards, etc.) statistically have a huge iq and are quite educated. so congrats "ballsoharden" The numbers say you are likely hugely successful in life.
     
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  11. CHAMPBOY

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    Uhh? Green provides 22 points a game, he sometimes carry the team this season. He needs a point guard and a coach with shot selection in a offense scheme. He does not play any defense but he have the athletic ability to be a good defender…Coach Ime can help him
     
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  12. snowconeman22

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    we’ve got Dashien “lottery talent” Nix

    also I’ve got to shout out @BallSoHarden , sure it’s a bit of a hater take

    but I’ll be damned if most of us didn’t hate watching rockets ball the last couple of years.

    It’s not even deciding to rebuild . It’s the BS playing time decisions , lack of structure and culture , and unmitigated confidence and arrogance from the front office in lieu of the results .

    ITS NOT HARD TO BE BAD AND DRAFT HIGH

    that has literally been our plan … combined with “play top picks big minutes regardless of production”

    of course it works with the GOAL of sucking . But not so compatible with building accountable , disciplined , professional players .

    I don’t care whether we draft the pick or trade it . I think we are ****ed either way . I think for sure we are going to give OKC a top 10 pick . That’s ok . What’s not ok is our lack of progress

    Only 1 thing can save stones job … significant improvement from green, smith

    we are going to play those guys 30+ mpg again . They have to be better . We have to win significantly more games .

    and @BallSoHarden is right that we got LUCKY to have gotten the picks we did . We had a 50/50 shot at giving the green pick to OKC .

    we can blame Morey for that WB trade , but cmon , it’s apparent who was pushing that .

    stones idea of winning was bringing in cousins , wall , theis , and oladipo. ….
    …..
    …..

    this dude is a clown and I hope he gets lucky. What a great opportunity stone has had over the last couple of years

    I wish I had the job security of being the worst in my role for 3 years in a row and I was being brought back yet again .

    our “talent” looks good becaus they were drafted highly . In senguns case he makes fancy plays that ooh us . But not one of our “pieces” has demonstrated **** towards winning .

    just getting to 30-35 wins next year does not do a lot for me . I want blood for my pain of being forced to watch this **** … or more likely just not watching .
     
  13. MystikArkitect

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    The poll results usually restore my faith in Clutchfans when I realize it's just a handful of crazies spouting nonsense from the rooftops.
     
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  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
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    Clutchfans like society as a whole is full of middle management types people who are risk averse.

    They don't like to take risks in life or in the teams they cheer or root for - and they accomplish that as well, a nice low risk life worth living.

    Of course those odds mean more than likely they aren't ever going be super successful or enjoy a lifestyle from the rewards of hitting it big by taking risks.

    And as such they aren't the CEOs of the world, because they are afraid of taking that risk.

    You have to risk big to win big.....I think Stone gets it, Tilman gets it, and it looks like about 30% here get it.

    :)

    No name tag wearing for those 30% risk taking potential high achievers baby ! Of course the risk does mean a higher likelihood of failure so.....risk reward....better to try and fail then to never try at all.

    DD
     
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    I’m waiting for the podcast. Life lessons from DD
     
  16. tycoonchip

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    22 pts on low efficiency on the worst team in the league. No one besides some Rockets fans wearing Rockets colored glasses is calling the kid the next Kobe Bryant. Maybe a Latrell Sprewell.
    If we have a chance to move up in the draft, then we need to do so. If it means packaging Green with our pick to go for a franchise altering player like Scoot so be it.
     
  17. CHAMPBOY

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    I do not understand your logic…..his rookie year he average 17 points per game shooting 42% FG and 34% at the 3 point line. He mainly was the fourth wheel with Woods, Gordon and KPJ taking most of the pressure of producing offense for the team. Start of the season he became the #1 offense option for this team, he had to adjust to be double teamed, being the ball handler and being more of a playmaker….while he was adjusting to his new position on the team, he had to score more and he went from 17 points per game to 22 points per game BUT he shot more last second shots, shooting while being double teamed and no point guard to help him with his shot selection. His former coach, believe in the offense scheme, My Turn and Your Turn Offense. Jalen Green is a three level player, he can drive by anyone for a easy layup, he has a midrange game and he can shoot the 3s. He needs a veteran point guard and a good coach to help him with his shot selection and veterans and coach to push him to play defense….

    Who will be the best player from the 2021 draft? It will be either Jalen, Cade or Mobley! Scottie cannot shoot and has average handles and Suggs likes basketball but is not committed. I believe Jalen is going to average 25 plus points per game next year and shoot 45% FG and 36% at the 3 point line. He is going to put effort in his defense and have a coach to push him, Silas was a JOKE.

    if Harden is on this team, either Jalen or Sengun(who will average 20 points and 10 rebounds a game) has the chance to make the all star team.

    Getting Harden, making KPJ our 6th Man, drafting Amen Or his brother for defense and finding a interior defender we are a must better team. We had three problems with our team last year, SILAS, NO DEFENSE AND NO POINT GUARD…..1 down and two to go
     
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  18. tycoonchip

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    Alot of hypotheticals here. Maybe's, ifs, buts, excuses for Green. Trade for Scoot and watch this team flourish. He automatically becomes our main building block that will only need to work on his strength, stamina, and shooting. Green needs this, green needs that means to me that he isn't a player I'm relying to build around.
     
  19. Francis3422

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    I think your posting style has shifted to a very passive aggressive mix with a strong hint of arrogance. Such postings in this style are below you as you seem to be a good guy.
     
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  20. Tuckmose

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    The only risks I see you taking are with your heath. Give your joints a break and lose sixty pounds before your heart gives out.
     
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