Congratulations to Gov DeSantis

CCorn · May 26, 2023

Really need to get all this money out of politics. Hundreds of millions of dollars going into this serial killer who has no chance of winning.

rocketsjudoka · May 26, 2023

Andre0087 said: ↑

Ron DeSantis Signs Bill Protecting Elon Musk If His Rockets Explode and Kill Workers

Just a day after Elon Musk and David Sacks hosted Ron DeSantis on Twitter for an exclusive and disastrouspresidential announcement, the Florida governor signed a bill shielding Musk’s SpaceX from liability if workers are killed after his rockets blow up (something that Musk is apparently very adept at making happen, from Tesla cars to rocketships, to presidential campaigns).

The Spaceflight Entity Liability Billexpands legal immunities that will shield private space companies, like Musk’s SpaceX and Jeff Bezos’s Blue Origin, from legal responsibility when workers suffer injuries or even die. At its core, the bill broadens when these companies are exempted “from liability for injury to or death of a crew resulting from spaceflight activities.”

And Musk made sure his presence was known throughout the process of the bill. While the bill was advancing through both the state House and Senate, a SpaceX lobbyist, Jeffrey Sharkey, appeared at practically every single committee meeting related to it—lobbying members on at least five separate occasions, in five different state House committees. Other lobbyists from Boeing, Space Florida, and Florida Rising also made their presence known—but not to the extent SpaceX did.

While tycoons imagine a future of taxiing their fellow fat cats to space on a whim, these billionaire-plaything rockets keep exploding. The urge to make a business out of something that is not safe—nor, well, needed at the moment since we can’t even take careof the planet we’re on—helps explain the genesis of the bill. An analysis by the Florida state Senate admits it all quite plainly: “This bill has the potential to limit the cost of litigation to businesses engaging in spaceflight activities.”

The bill mandates “crew” and participants alike fill out a waiver that grants legal immunities to space companies in cases of injury or death.

Moreover, the bill expands the definition of “spaceflight entity” to include any entity authorized to conduct spaceflight activities, beyond ones solely associated with the United States Federal Aviation Administration, opening up which entities in the broader industry will qualify for the expanded immunity. The bill also cuts out language ascribing liability to spaceflight entities for damage caused from “inherent risks” of spaceflight activity; instead, the bill broadens the scope of liability immunity to include all spaceflight activities.

Finally, the bill also amends language that orders entities to be liable for injury if they had actual knowledge, or reasonably should have known, of risks. The new language only orders legal liability for “actual knowledge” of risks, meaning there is no longer any expectation for companies to be responsible for damages from risks they “reasonably should have known” about.

The bill comes after both DeSantis’s annoucement—where hand-picked guests spent more time hailing Musk like God than asking DeSantis questions—and DeSantis’s own campaign released a bizarre post-launch video that showcases Musk as much as (if not more than) DeSantis.

On its way to DeSantis’s desk, buttressed by the heavy lobbyist presence, the bill passed the state Senate 39–0 and state House 107–5. The wildly bipartisan effort to give special legal immunities to the richest people in the world’s pet projects is in part a result of how much money these companies have flooded into both parties.

Musk’s SpaceX has spent some $8 million in lobbying efforts since 2020 and donated another $1 million to members of both parties during the 2022 election cycle alone. Bezos’s Blue Origin has spent some $6.3 million in lobbying efforts since 2020, while sending just over half a million dollars to members of both parties during 2022.

https://newrepublic.com/post/173040...ecting-elon-musk-rockets-explode-kill-workers

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Don’t they mean liability protection for “Rapid Unplanned Dissambly” of their rockets?

rocketsjudoka · May 26, 2023

Andre0087 said: ↑

Ron DeSantis Signs Bill Protecting Elon Musk If His Rockets Explode and Kill Workers

Just a day after Elon Musk and David Sacks hosted Ron DeSantis on Twitter for an exclusive and disastrouspresidential announcement, the Florida governor signed a bill shielding Musk’s SpaceX from liability if workers are killed after his rockets blow up (something that Musk is apparently very adept at making happen, from Tesla cars to rocketships, to presidential campaigns).

The Spaceflight Entity Liability Billexpands legal immunities that will shield private space companies, like Musk’s SpaceX and Jeff Bezos’s Blue Origin, from legal responsibility when workers suffer injuries or even die. At its core, the bill broadens when these companies are exempted “from liability for injury to or death of a crew resulting from spaceflight activities.”

And Musk made sure his presence was known throughout the process of the bill. While the bill was advancing through both the state House and Senate, a SpaceX lobbyist, Jeffrey Sharkey, appeared at practically every single committee meeting related to it—lobbying members on at least five separate occasions, in five different state House committees. Other lobbyists from Boeing, Space Florida, and Florida Rising also made their presence known—but not to the extent SpaceX did.

While tycoons imagine a future of taxiing their fellow fat cats to space on a whim, these billionaire-plaything rockets keep exploding. The urge to make a business out of something that is not safe—nor, well, needed at the moment since we can’t even take careof the planet we’re on—helps explain the genesis of the bill. An analysis by the Florida state Senate admits it all quite plainly: “This bill has the potential to limit the cost of litigation to businesses engaging in spaceflight activities.”

The bill mandates “crew” and participants alike fill out a waiver that grants legal immunities to space companies in cases of injury or death.

Moreover, the bill expands the definition of “spaceflight entity” to include any entity authorized to conduct spaceflight activities, beyond ones solely associated with the United States Federal Aviation Administration, opening up which entities in the broader industry will qualify for the expanded immunity. The bill also cuts out language ascribing liability to spaceflight entities for damage caused from “inherent risks” of spaceflight activity; instead, the bill broadens the scope of liability immunity to include all spaceflight activities.

Finally, the bill also amends language that orders entities to be liable for injury if they had actual knowledge, or reasonably should have known, of risks. The new language only orders legal liability for “actual knowledge” of risks, meaning there is no longer any expectation for companies to be responsible for damages from risks they “reasonably should have known” about.

The bill comes after both DeSantis’s annoucement—where hand-picked guests spent more time hailing Musk like God than asking DeSantis questions—and DeSantis’s own campaign released a bizarre post-launch video that showcases Musk as much as (if not more than) DeSantis.

On its way to DeSantis’s desk, buttressed by the heavy lobbyist presence, the bill passed the state Senate 39–0 and state House 107–5. The wildly bipartisan effort to give special legal immunities to the richest people in the world’s pet projects is in part a result of how much money these companies have flooded into both parties.

Musk’s SpaceX has spent some $8 million in lobbying efforts since 2020 and donated another $1 million to members of both parties during the 2022 election cycle alone. Bezos’s Blue Origin has spent some $6.3 million in lobbying efforts since 2020, while sending just over half a million dollars to members of both parties during 2022.

https://newrepublic.com/post/173040...ecting-elon-musk-rockets-explode-kill-workers

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Don’t they mean liability protection for “Rapid Unplanned Disassembly” of their rockets?

Buck Turgidson · May 26, 2023

Space Ghost said: ↑

What is your source? Some random guy on twitter inserting a photo pic?
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How about noted liberal left wing trash rag The National Review:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...day-one-of-presidency-theyve-been-weaponized/

Ubiquitin · May 26, 2023

Buck Turgidson said: ↑

How about noted liberal left wing trash rag The National Review:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...day-one-of-presidency-theyve-been-weaponized/
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I sense the Overton window has shifted again.

FranchiseBlade · May 26, 2023

Andre0087 said: ↑

Ron DeSantis Signs Bill Protecting Elon Musk If His Rockets Explode and Kill Workers

Just a day after Elon Musk and David Sacks hosted Ron DeSantis on Twitter for an exclusive and disastrouspresidential announcement, the Florida governor signed a bill shielding Musk’s SpaceX from liability if workers are killed after his rockets blow up (something that Musk is apparently very adept at making happen, from Tesla cars to rocketships, to presidential campaigns).

The Spaceflight Entity Liability Billexpands legal immunities that will shield private space companies, like Musk’s SpaceX and Jeff Bezos’s Blue Origin, from legal responsibility when workers suffer injuries or even die. At its core, the bill broadens when these companies are exempted “from liability for injury to or death of a crew resulting from spaceflight activities.”

And Musk made sure his presence was known throughout the process of the bill. While the bill was advancing through both the state House and Senate, a SpaceX lobbyist, Jeffrey Sharkey, appeared at practically every single committee meeting related to it—lobbying members on at least five separate occasions, in five different state House committees. Other lobbyists from Boeing, Space Florida, and Florida Rising also made their presence known—but not to the extent SpaceX did.

While tycoons imagine a future of taxiing their fellow fat cats to space on a whim, these billionaire-plaything rockets keep exploding. The urge to make a business out of something that is not safe—nor, well, needed at the moment since we can’t even take careof the planet we’re on—helps explain the genesis of the bill. An analysis by the Florida state Senate admits it all quite plainly: “This bill has the potential to limit the cost of litigation to businesses engaging in spaceflight activities.”

The bill mandates “crew” and participants alike fill out a waiver that grants legal immunities to space companies in cases of injury or death.

Moreover, the bill expands the definition of “spaceflight entity” to include any entity authorized to conduct spaceflight activities, beyond ones solely associated with the United States Federal Aviation Administration, opening up which entities in the broader industry will qualify for the expanded immunity. The bill also cuts out language ascribing liability to spaceflight entities for damage caused from “inherent risks” of spaceflight activity; instead, the bill broadens the scope of liability immunity to include all spaceflight activities.

Finally, the bill also amends language that orders entities to be liable for injury if they had actual knowledge, or reasonably should have known, of risks. The new language only orders legal liability for “actual knowledge” of risks, meaning there is no longer any expectation for companies to be responsible for damages from risks they “reasonably should have known” about.

The bill comes after both DeSantis’s annoucement—where hand-picked guests spent more time hailing Musk like God than asking DeSantis questions—and DeSantis’s own campaign released a bizarre post-launch video that showcases Musk as much as (if not more than) DeSantis.

On its way to DeSantis’s desk, buttressed by the heavy lobbyist presence, the bill passed the state Senate 39–0 and state House 107–5. The wildly bipartisan effort to give special legal immunities to the richest people in the world’s pet projects is in part a result of how much money these companies have flooded into both parties.

Musk’s SpaceX has spent some $8 million in lobbying efforts since 2020 and donated another $1 million to members of both parties during the 2022 election cycle alone. Bezos’s Blue Origin has spent some $6.3 million in lobbying efforts since 2020, while sending just over half a million dollars to members of both parties during 2022.

https://newrepublic.com/post/173040...ecting-elon-musk-rockets-explode-kill-workers

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Thank goodness people with money don't get favors from the government. We all have equal protection, right?

Sweet Lou 4 2 · May 26, 2023

DeSantis is Musk's little puppet now.

Major · May 26, 2023

Buck Turgidson said: ↑

How about noted liberal left wing trash rag The National Review:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...day-one-of-presidency-theyve-been-weaponized/
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I think this part is particularly amusing:

“Congress also has a role in reining in the abuses through both the power of the purse and through making sure they’re legislating clear and defined laws that aren’t delegating huge swaths of power to unelected bureaucrats,” DeSantis added.

Given that everything he's been doing in Florida is about empowering his hand-chosen unelected bureaucrats. And removing elected people from office that he doesn't agree with.

NewRoxFan · May 28, 2023

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LOL... no surprise that both musk and the desantis campaign would pump out misinformation that is so easy to disprove...

Twitter Owner Elon Musk Gets Owned by Twitter After False Claim DeSantis Set Fundraising Records

President Donald Trump raised $24.8 million in the hours following the official launch of his campaign for reelection in 2020,” read a community note attached to Musk’s tweet.
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/twitter-owner-elon-musk-gets-030033434.html

And interesting to note, that huge fundraising start by trump didn't seem to help him win...

NewRoxFan · May 28, 2023

Space Ghost said: ↑

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LOL... no surprise that both musk and the desantis campaign would pump out misinformation that is so easy to disprove...

Twitter Owner Elon Musk Gets Owned by Twitter After False Claim DeSantis Set Fundraising Records

President Donald Trump raised $24.8 million in the hours following the official launch of his campaign for reelection in 2020,” read a community note attached to Musk’s tweet.
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/twitter-owner-elon-musk-gets-030033434.html

And interesting to note, that huge fundraising start by trump didn't seem to help him win...

NewRoxFan · May 28, 2023

Slight correction... there is nothing disqualifying about any republican candidate...

rocketsjudoka · May 28, 2023

Imagine the outcry if Biden said he would pardon those who are charged with federal crimes in the riots following George Floyd.

Amiga · May 28, 2023

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NewRoxFan · May 29, 2023

Wow... what a positive vision for America...

AroundTheWorld · May 29, 2023

NewRoxFan said: ↑

Wow... what a positive vision for America...

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It would be good. The woke mind virus is evil.

dmoneybangbang · May 29, 2023

AroundTheWorld said: ↑

It would be good. The woke mind virus is evil.
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Not as evil as the Christian mind virus, where the rape of a minor is divine providence.

Reeko · May 29, 2023

literally sounding like a fascist dictator…a republican won’t even try to attempt to view themselves as the president of the United States…it’s “I’m the president for the conservatives, and fck everybody else, I’m gonna destroy them”

these people are demons and the scum of the earth

imagine Biden’s only goal being to “destroy” the right wing…if he said any of the sh*t b*tch Ronnie just said, conservatives would be crying for weeks

AroundTheWorld · May 29, 2023

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literally sounding like a fascist dictator…a republican won’t even try to attempt to view themselves as the president of the United States…it’s “I’m the president for the conservatives, and fck everybody else, I’m gonna destroy them”

these people are demons and the scum of the earth

imagine Biden’s only goal being to “destroy” the right wing…if he said any of the sh*t b*tch Ronnie just said, conservatives would be crying for weeks
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look up what Biden said about MAGA folks

or Hillary's "deplorables"

same thing

Reeko · May 29, 2023

AroundTheWorld said: ↑

look up what Biden said about MAGA folks

or Hillary's "deplorables"

same thing
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please point out where either of them said they were gonna destroy the right…

AroundTheWorld · May 29, 2023

Reeko said: ↑

please point out where either of them said they were gonna destroy the right…
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It's about certain ideological elements, not about destroying people. I respect you and your point of view, I just think that people are demonizing DeSantis way too much.

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