I didn't propose Taylor in the trade; but as Dharocks pointed out, I was confusing Stromile Shift with Robert Swift, so never mind (in the words of Rosanna Dana Dana). That being said, I would trade MoT for AD and Potapenko in a minute, because they both have expiring contracts, and they both fill our needs (for the same reason Seattle probably wouldn't do that deal - I doubt if they would take MoT with his big contract with three years remaining). Then our backup PFs would be Spoon and Padgett, which is good enough. And we would clear cap space for the summer of 2006 (the subject of a current trade MoT for expiring contracts thread).
How about a Spoon + Griffin for AD + Penko or James trade? All the contracts involved expire at the end of the season but players fit better on opposite team. AD is our PG while Penko or James would back Yao. Spoon would give still give them depth at PF or C without taking time from Swift and they need a backup for Lewis, which Griffin would fill.
You're about the fifth or sixth person I've seen say this... Spoon is NOT a FA at the end of next season. He has two more years left. Taylor has three more left, not two (you didn't say he had two, but other posters have).
Since the TE cannot be combined w/ players, how about: 1. Part of TE for Potapenko or James. then 2. Pike/Griffin for Daniels.
You might have a preference for Damon, and you are entitled to your opinion. However, there are several reasons ehy I would choose AD over DJ. I will try to expand on the reasons that haven't been overly discussed on other posts, and I will try to be to the point on the obvoius reasons. 1. AD played on a similiar offense in San Antonio. In 1999, AD played with two of the best post players in the game in Duncan and Robinson. AD did play a few seasons after 99, but the Spurs became NBA Champions in the shortened season. He could institute the Pick and Roll with Yao & T-Mac with perfection. 2. AD does not turn the ball over. 3. AD is a good defensive player. 4. AD is versatile enough to drive to the basket and shoot the three. 5. AD has a short and cap friendly contract. 6. AD is not a shoot first or big name player. We do not need a big time point guard. Daniels don't need to pad his numbers at every game. He also doesn't need to take many shoots. With Yao, McGrady, Taylor, Howard and JJ, we don't need a Nash, Marbury or B. Davis type of player.
That being said, if we got Daniels for this year and he played relatively well, how much do you think we would have to pay to re-sign him? Would he be an unrestricted free agent? As much as a cheap, expiring contract thrills me, the possibility of losing that player in FA or re-signing them to a Moochie-esque contract scares me.
I think that he has a player option at the end of the season which is not much more than what he is making now. If he opts to stay then we still have a cheap PG, if not then we will find a better option which is what I believe they are going to do anyway.
If I wait anymore for us to sign a PG or a backup C I think I'm going to die. My God, what's taking Damon Jones so long to decide? Why aren't we making a move to snap up a backup C? The ONLY thing I can think of is that Seattle has told us they will deal us Daniels if they get Jones. That's probably why we're not pursuing Jones, and probably why we haven't dealt with anyone else. But why don't we get a C? Maybe Seattle will deal us James and Daniels for TE and Pike or something like that? That would be ideal. Why else would we be taking this long? We're waiting to snap up some prze FA? they're all gone. The only decent remaining FA's are Mike James and Damon Jones. This is really beginning to annoy me.
Agreed. While I'm glad that CD didn't shell out a dumb contract, I still want something done, SOON. I just hope CD has a backup plan IF we don't get our man. We make such a huge effort to bring in McGrady and we can't bring in a PG? I don't like the idea of us waiting on other teams, and basing our moves soley on other teams moves. I like AD, I think he would be a good fit. But Jones wants to be here, he doesn't turn the ball over, he's a good shooter, what more do they want? Why not offer Jones a 4yr/20-22M deal?
I still don't understand why some of you people think that upgrading from Lue to Daniels is the answer to our problems
i looked up some damon jones and antonio daniels pics at gettyimages.... and damon, compared to antonio, looked like he was having alot of fun and was hugging/joking with alot of players including lue and lebron... seems like a good guy i wish he was traded here to houston
Yeah, and Daniels is only a one-year rental at the cost of a 1st round pick. I would rather lock down Jones for 4 years 16 - 18 million than waste a pick and shop for a PG again next year. Don't expect to always get a deal like JJ (he's also not a long term solution). How can you get a better PG than Jones to accept a start of 3.5 million?
I think that AD is the Rockets first choice because he fits the system (i.e. low turnovers) I also don't think Daniels will be a one year rental if he works out well - also, there is "internet chatter" that Jones is a little miffed at Houston since they cut him a few year back besides, if the Rockets finish in the top 4 in the west (which they can do with this team) the first round pick will be meaningless.
Although I agree with the rest of your statement, a first round pick always has value. Considering that guys like Cuttino Mobley, Boozer, Rashard Lewis, and Michael Redd were found in late 1st to 2nd round picks.
Actually, all of them were 2nd rounders. Which I guess technically proves your point that they could be had with 1st round picks... But they could also all be had with 2nd round picks. Just though I'd state the obvious... Carry on.
great point - I would also like to add that first rounders get guarenteed money - and since the influx of high schoolers and euros has made the draft such a crap shot, I would suggest that unless you are getting a sure thing, teams with good talent may want to avoid the draft in favor of known players
Sorry but 1st round picks are always good asset, for trading or selecting the player you want. As to late picks, they only make near minimum and have a good chance to develop into a solid starter or rotation player. They definitely worth the gamble.
