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Woj: Harden Return?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Htown Legend, Dec 25, 2022.

  1. Landry's Tooth

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    I'm not set on Harden coming back, but we quickly forget how awesome he was...

    His last full season here he had this:

    PJ Tucker
    Russell Westbrook
    Danuel House
    Ben McLemore
    Austin Rivers
    Clint Capela
    Eric Gordon
    Robert Covington

    That's the other top 8 players in minutes played.

    They finished with 44 wins and the 4th seed. That doesn't sound like much but that was the year shortened by covid. That's a 52 win team in a regular season.

    If they can add some additional pieces like a Jaylen Brown, Grant Williams, Beverley, Lopez, etc. then that's clearly a better roster even ignoring development of Jabari or Sengun...

    What would you pick as better?

    Harden
    Westbrook
    House
    Tucker
    Capela/Covington

    Or

    James Harden
    Jaylen Brown
    Jabari Smith
    Grant Williams
    Alperen Sengun

    I'm seeing 55+ wins with reasonable assumptions....

    Not saying there isn't a better option out there but the talk of adding Harden just to get to a play in game is not a likely scenario... they likely do far better...
     
  2. YOLO

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    complains about proven rotational players in Green, Uncle Jeff, and Temple and yet looks the other way at the bottom barrel scrubs on the roster at the time. ironic
     
  3. waytookrzy079

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    Care to elaborate? I genuinely want to know where he's cheaped out
     
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  6. Landry's Tooth

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    And you would complain had they kept those guys. Morey gave Ryan Anderson 80 million over 4.

    Here are their 2018-19 salaries:

    Ariza: 15 million
    Anderson: 20 million
    Shumpert: 11 million
    Mbah a Moute: 4.3 million

    Only Ariza played significantly after leaving Houston.

    50 million in payroll, all Morey decisions.

    Here are how many nba minutes each of those players played after they were unloaded:

    Anderson: 336 (3 teams including houston again)
    Ariza: 5,145 (for 6 teams in 4 years)
    Mbah a moute: 86 (2 teams including houston again)
    Shumpert: 252

    So the 3 guys not name Ariza played 674 minutes the rest of their careers over 6 seasons. That's about 4 or 5 games a year coming off the bench.

    And Ariza was trash by then which is why he was being dumped by teams.

    I know, I know, they had all this tremendous value as contracts to trade.... all the nba teams are looking for guys who are too hurt to get on the court so they can take your late first round picks for their best player....

    Delusion...
     
  7. Landry's Tooth

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    He didn't want to pay players a lot of money to sit at home with the trainers...
     
  8. YOLO

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    Tilman bootlickers for years "it can't get any worse"

    It's now 2023 and its still getting worse lol

    What a coincidence, the best team Jokic has had to date and they're in the luxury tax. They're also the first team into the NBA finals.

    If Tilman was the owner, he would have passed on signing the likes of KCP, BB and opted for some over the hill vet mins. and CF's would be like kcp/bb ain't worth it
     
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  9. Rocket River

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    I trust Ime more than anyone else at this point

    Rocket River
     
  10. Rocket River

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    Those Contract negotiations were pure insult

    Rocket River
     
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    Shocking. I guess all the BS Harden's camp has been putting out recently hasn't worked quite like they thought it would.
     
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    Stone's gonna look like a fool paying that dude anywhere near the max.
     
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    Has anybody else heard his mom is battling cancer and that’s one of the reasons he wants to be back in Houston to be close to her?
     
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    Sweet McDonald’s hairline bruh
     
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  18. cheke64

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    That poll says 76% vote to let Harden go. Philly is not feeling him
     
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  19. larsv8

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    Don't mean to fat shame but Windy only knows the word appetite to describe this?
     
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