http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings/index.html I think you guys will like it. ------------------ the nuggets suck...i know, i know!
NugzFan, thanks for the heads up. I think they are not too far off...barring (bite me tongue) injuries. BTW, what's your take on the Dream for LaFrentz thread?
well i already gave a reply, basically stating i wouldnt trade raef for thomas and picks & i think dream is better than raef, but i wouldnt trade raef for dream due to ages. ------------------ the nuggets suck...i know, i know!
I noticed the Heat still need a PG. Moochie would be the icing on the cake for them, but I woulden't want to loose him. I'd love to see what it would be like seeing Moochie going up against StevieWonderful! ------------------ This is our FRANCHISE and these are the RULES - Learn it, Live it, Love it!
So why isn't anyone crying about the evil biased media now? ------------------ So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again. The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older, Shorter of breath and one day closer to death. [This message has been edited by Pete Rose Mobster (edited July 24, 2001).]
One site was realistic one time. It doesn't mean that they are consistently unbiased. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
Right, only one time... ------------------ So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again. The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older, Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.
Fine, twice. However, I don't see how you guys can really think that the media isn't biased towards certain teams, cities, etc. One example that comes to mind is the Sixers. They had a decent record in an extremely weak conference, didn't even have the best record in the league, got stomped at home by 25 by teams such as the Rockets, etc. Did they deserve to have the MVP, 6th man of the year, Coach of the Year, and Defensive Player of the Year all from the same team? Were they good enough that they deserved to sweep the awards? I find that hard to believe. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
I have serious doubts about Portland. Their chemistry is screwed, their inside game is inconsisent, and their bench, while nice, is not nearly as deep as people make it out to be. And interesting how they have the Rockets ranked ahead of Toronto! ------------------ "Instruments are like women: After a while, you want to make love to another." - Nicolas Godin of the musical duo Air [This message has been edited by RocksMillenium (edited July 24, 2001).]
Which of those awards do you think was undeserved, Cat? Iverson was the league's leading scorer and played on the best team in the East. Mutombo came in with the defensive reputation and led the league in rebounds - hardly a surprise he won. McKie wasn't an awesome 6th man, stat-wise, but it was a down year for bench stars - no Mobley, Rodney Rogers and Kukoc having down seasons, Tim Thomas failing to raise his game, etc. Coach of the year is a question mark (based on the regular season I would've taken Pat Riley, who won 50 without Zo, or George Karl, who took his team to the next level) but you can certainly make the case for Brown receiving that honor. I think it was a string of coincidences, not some X-Files type conspiracy. ------------------ I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip that I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.
I disagree, all of the 76ers awards were deserved. They may have lost by 25 to the Rockets, but the Lakers lost by 30 to the Clippers. It doesn't matter. And they had the 2nd best record. Again it goes back to what I say to people who say a players stats shouldn't count because he got them on a bad team. It's STILL the NBA, and you have to play a professional team against NBA athletes to get those numbers! And up until the late season swoon due to injuries, the 76ers clearly had the best record and the best team. Injuries took their toll on the 76ers. They were a better team then the one that played in the Finals. Those awards are definitely deserved. The 76ers actually had a winning record vs the West. The Bucks OWNED the West elite. The East isn't as weak as people think as far as teams are concerned. ------------------ "Instruments are like women: After a while, you want to make love to another." - Nicolas Godin of the musical duo Air [This message has been edited by RocksMillenium (edited July 24, 2001).]
Sam, Iverson may can score, but it limits the achievement imho when you have to shoot it 40 times to get those points. Duncan or Shaq would've been better choices. Defensive player of the year I personally would've given to Doug Christie. He made a much bigger impact on his team in the defensive area. 6th man of the year I probably would've given to Bobby Jackson, but McKie is ok too. Jackson did everything Williams couldn't for the Kings; he made his shots, passed, played good defense, and changed the flow of the game. Coach of the Year I definitely would not have given Brown. He took a team to win 56 games in the ridiculously weak Eastern Conference. Might want to take a look at coaches that had their teams make up huge gaps in the West such as Don Nelson and Rudy. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy, but ever since the Sixers started out the season red hot, all the basketball media talked about was Allen Iverson and the role players. I can't tell you how many spots the Sixers had on Sportscenter where they "analyzed" the Sixers great play. Many of the sportswriters voting are just local commentators or writers, and don't get to see the national picture all that much. If the media had more balanced coverage, players such as Bobby Jackson would get as many national headlines as Aaron McKie. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site [This message has been edited by The Cat (edited July 24, 2001).]
Mutombo deserved defensive player of the year. He changed entire teams offenses on a bad Atlanta team with no help, and then got Philadelphia over the hump. Aaron McKie was the key scorer on the best team in the East. Larry Brown took a Philadelphia team that wasn't the most talented team and made them the BEST team in the East. Again I go back to the age old excuse, "That doesn't count it was in the weak EAST", that is a cop out. To say a team winning 56 games is nothing because it is the East is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. They beat 56 NBA teams. Why don't we just get rid of the East since it is weak right? Since winning against the East means nothing, get rid of it! In fact, the Rockets 45 wins don't mean anything because a good chunk of it came against the East! See what I mean? If you say the 76ers 56 wins don't mean anything because it is the East, then the Rockets 45 wins don't mean anything since most of it came against the East! ------------------ "Instruments are like women: After a while, you want to make love to another." - Nicolas Godin of the musical duo Air [This message has been edited by RocksMillenium (edited July 24, 2001).]
Mutombo as Defensive Player of the Year was undeserved. Sprewell, Garnett or Christie would have been far better choices. ------------------ The time for logic and reason has come and gone. It's homer time now. Believe.
Cat, the claim is that that the media is biased towards certain teams or cities. I'm saying that's not the case. I agree that Duncan and Shaq (and CWebb, and Garnett) are better players than Iverson, but it's not hard to see how the award would go to a guy who (1) led the league in scoring and steals, (2) played on the best team in the East, and (3) the whole "where would his team be without him" question benefits Iverson, and hurts Shaq and Tim. Mutombo got his defensive rep in Atlanta, before he ever went to the Sixers. Doug Christie? They don't award the defensive player of the year to a guy who's low profile. Also the award always goes to big men (Hakeem, Mutombo) or big-name guards (Jordan, Payton). Not necessarily fair, but its a fact that doesn't depend on the city the guy plays in. Bobby Jackson? He looks good in comparison to J Williams, but 7 points, 2 assists aren't the kind of stats that get you that kind of award, no matter what intangibles you bring. Moochie might be a better 6th man than Bobby. ------------------ I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip that I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.
I think most of the award winners were acceptable. Always going to argue about award winners (except shaq last year). Don Nelson should've got the award over Brown. That's the only one I think they got "wrong". THe mavs were awesome this season, surprising everyone. THey also won over 50 games, on par with the top teams. Nice seeing a payoff to all the heat he took over some (then) crazy deals. ------------------ D'oh! (_8(|) - a thought on Hakeem leaving
I agree Remember we are one eyed Rockets supporters, they report on all teams including Houston, which i would find hard to complement that much if i was reporting on the whole league with the way we played against the scrubs last year, Losing to the clippers hurt our cred bad. ------------------ "The things I enjoy most, I suck at: 1) Sex: everything's fine until she makes noises." - Achebe
I dont think Iverson should have got MVP but I knew he was going to get it!Know one other than Shaq should have got it and I would have Garnett,Webber,and the devil(Duncan)ahead of Iverson. I was surprised to see Mckie get the 6th man award,now he didnt deserve that at all,Hell Rip Hamilton should have got it over him,even on the sorry team he was on! ------------------ AKA Rendiggler
If sports media has any bias, it is based on three things: 1. Location. Most of the national sports media is based in the northeast. That tends to put the focus on those teams or college conferences for example. 2. Ratings. The bigger the market, the bigger the demand for information about the teams in that area. 3. Tradition. Sports writers have a tendency to base their feelings on what has happened in the past, so their interest is on the teams that have dominated the sport over the long haul like the Yankees, the Cowboys, the Lakers, etc. ------------------ Who's your buddy? Who's your pal? I am, aren't I?
