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What is Alperen Şengün's trade value? [Trade value poll series]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OremLK, May 9, 2023.

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What is the trade value for Alperen Sengun?

  1. Top 5 pick in the first round (high lottery pick)

    33 vote(s)
    35.1%
  2. Picks 6-10 in the first round (mid lottery pick)

    37 vote(s)
    39.4%
  3. Picks 11-14 in the first round (late lottery pick)

    14 vote(s)
    14.9%
  4. Picks 15-30 in the first round (non-lottery pick)

    7 vote(s)
    7.4%
  5. Second round draft pick

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. No surplus value (being paid more than he is worth)

    3 vote(s)
    3.2%
  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    Also you are comparing a rookie season to a sophmore season.
     
  2. astrosrule

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    Hm idk how to post the image, but the advanced stats favor jokic considerably at age 20. The reason he won't is because nobody does. This is no different from saying nix will be as good or better then jordan because at his age 19 nba season, nix was better. It's just complete nonsense.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    But Nix wasn't better.

    He wasn't even close.

    So whatever point you were unsuccessfully trying to make...you failed.
     
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  4. astrosrule

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    sure he was, he was in the nba and jordan wasn't
     
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  5. maj21

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    With all due respect, that’s false. ATW trashed other players throughout the season. Maybe you didn’t see it, but he’s one of the main ones. Lol
     
  6. OremLK

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    I've personally only seen him complain about KPJ and Nix like he said, which like... fair. Literally everyone is ready for Nix to go away and like 97% of forum members are sick of seeing KPJ pretend he's a point guard.
     
  7. RocketsFido

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    Easily top 5 and it's not close. He already has a reputation around the league for being an elite rookie, future all-star.

    So his trade value will easily be that high.
     
  8. invocux

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    Hmm this year's draft? I'm not exactly in love with anyone other than Wemby and Scoot. I don't see any jaw dropping talent outside top 2. I mean that's the issue every year filthy nerds call some kids generational and they barely get 15 minutes. I remember seeing some people on Reddit simping for Chris Duarte, calling him too good lol. Obviously some dudes other than these 2 will develop into elite players down the line but i'm not sure if they get drafted top 5. You will be gambling if you fall outside top 2 so Sengun's trade value is top 5 in this year's draft imo.
     
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  9. maj21

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    And Jabari. Did KPJ make himself the PG? So he doesn’t tear other players down bc KPJ and Nix don’t count. Got it!
     
  10. maj21

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    You know it’ll never stop lol
     
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    In a re-draft '21. Sengun would go top 3 alongside with Josh Giddey and Franz Wagner. He is already top 3 pick if not the 1st.

    Rockets gave 2 FRPs to get him and that action was the steal of the draft. Hence his actual trade value is :
    -A proven all-star level player plus 4 FRPs.

    Let's wait what GSW and Celtics will offer for him soon.
     
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  12. harold bingo

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    I get that you don't really like Sengun but it's crazy to me that you think this. Second year Jokic wasn't that good...I'd put down a lot of money that Sengun will have at least one season that is clearly better than year 2 Jokic.
     
  13. coachbadlee

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    Green will never be great as long as he has that finger nail polish on. That polish is holding him back.
     
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  14. AlperenSengun

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    thinking Sengun’s peak will be less than Jokic’s second year is similar to thinking Sengun is a guaranteed multiple all star, same level of craziness.
     
  15. astrosrule

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    Go look at jokic’s 2nd year metrics, he was an all nba level player
     
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  16. BallSoHarden

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    This doesn't happen often, but If you end up in a situation with a #1 overall pick and w Wemby, or a player that is likely going to be better / generational talent in the same position then you can make moves to draft another guy for fit. It likely would not be a 1 for 1 trade, but not totally out of the question, just depends what happens in the draft.
     
  17. thekad

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    I’d probably take Sengun 4th in this draft and can be convinced to take him at 3. So a 2nd tier pick basically.
     
  18. ApacheWarrior

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    Yes I know the stats. It's about spacing.

    Here is Jalen Green highlights......count how many defenders
    are in the paint each time he drives


    This is the reason KPj, Jalen Green come off as inefficient,
    ball chunkers, and turnover machines. A PACKED PAINT

    Provide spacing and all of Green, KPj, *Harden, Jabari, TyTy
    start to look better at drives......and passing.
    _______________

    I highlighted Harden, because the ESPN crew Rockets reps had
    a video discussing Hardens return and they claim that they asked
    each coaching candidate about how they feel about the Rockets
    with a returning Harden this season? No tampering, but players
    have a way to get messages to organizations in a round about way.
    -cough-cough-Jalen.

    I believe Harden hired an agency to negotiate the return at a
    discounted rate.....the agency shields Harden from hearing
    all the negativity of him bailing on us. Same thing with selling
    your own home......buyers tell you all the flaws and it hurts
    when negotiating a deal. Sometimes best to let realtors do
    what they do.

    So in Summary: Ime Udoka- said he wanted:
    *Better perimeter shooting in our Wings corp....
    enter 3&D Cam Johnson
    *Many here b**** that we need a point guard....
    enter the number 1 assist guy in the league Harden
    *Udoka- said he wanted a lob threat and rim protecting big man....
    enter the number 2 shot blocker in the league slash lob threat
    Nic Claxton.

    Stick those stats in your cap!!
    Number 1 assist player at 10.7 (Harden)
    Number 2 shot blocker at 2.5 (Nic Claxton.....age 24)


    P.S. there is a correlation between poor team 3-point % and losing in this league.

    Fair post up game and pulling a fancy pass out of your anus might win games
    in Turkey.....but in the NBA it doesn't get you squat.
    https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct
     
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  19. ApacheWarrior

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  20. Le$$

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    Him and Green are untouchable.
     

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