Chicago locals not happy about bussed immigrant housing plan

Oh there are lots of Hispanics in the Midwest. There are a lot of Hispanics in Chicago and in Illinois. However, bussing in immigrants is another situation - especially with Chicago putting them in the middle of black neighborhoods- and I think black people asking why they are in Lawndale and not the white areas of town is a fair question to ask.

I have lived in Texas and Chicago and it is hard for me to have a lot of empathy for conservative Texans and politicians when they mock and deride the situation in Chicago and offer no empathy or support. It is often a political game to them.

There are times and in some rural areas in Illinois where some cheap labor would be welcomed by corporations - but there is a fair amount of xenophobia in a lot of the Midwest too.

 

Chicago is complicated. Yes I am involved in Garfield Park and other parts of Chicago. The worst part of Chicago is worse than anywhere in the USA - if you are black. I can walk around and am left alone because they know I am not a police officer and because I am white, they don’t shoot white people.

Having said that, 90% of Chicago is the safest city in the USA and one of the safest in the world, on par with Scandinavian countries.

As far as Chicago throwing a fit over 5,000 immigrants - the people in Chicago are not throwing a fit. It is primarily black activists that don’t want limited resources spent on people not from Chicago and black people that live where they intend to move the immigrants… which is just a disaster waiting to happen, moving Hispanic people into a neighborhood that is literally 99% black and has rival gangs on every block.

Having said that, why should Chicago take immigrants bussed from Texas? Again, I don’t see Texas concerned about the issues in Chicago.

The issue needs to be dealt with at a national level. If Texas and Florida want to keep sending immigrants to places in the Midwest, it isn’t going to help them politically. Purple states, even bordering states will hold it against Republicans. People in the Midwest do not see the issue like people in the Red border states do.

Briefly, the problems in Chicago are based on a city having almost no black people, suddenly having to massive waves of black people moving into the city for jobs in manufacturing. Because all the black people came in waves, they lived in the same areas of town. The white and immigrants in Chicago did everything possible to keep black people segregated. When the manufacturers closed up, black people were laid off and many became unemployed and dependent on social services, which opened up massive housing developments that would not give benefits to families with men in the homes… and then drugs and corruption spilled in… broken families… and street gangs that were the strongest in the US… so people like me, federal prosecutors came in and with the police arrested the leaders and charged them with murder and drug distribution… and charged the black Panthers… and then did the same to the next 2 generations… to the point where there are literally almost no black men between 30-55 in these neighborhoods… they all are dead, serving life in prison and moved away… and it is almost a genocide.. which I played a part in - because the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

Not to sidetrack you here. I lived in the Chicago suburbs for a few years. You are absolutely correct 95% of Chicagoland is safe. In other news, we got a Portillos here in DFW a few months ago!

 

Similar # to the number of babies born each day.

 

Yes there is a lot of xenophobia especially in rural areas of the Midwest. It seems to have gotten worse in the last 10 years.

Since you mentioned black migration to Chicago from the South a lot of the Black community in Minnesota is from people who left Chicago and Detroit looking for new opportunities in Minnesota. My business partner’s father came from Detroit when he was young and his grandparents came from the Carolinas to Detroit.

 

I think everyone agrees that there are big problems with the immigration system and that it is underfunded. Where there are disagreements on are what are the priorities.

As you’re acknowledging what Abbott and DeSantis are doing are just stunts and aren’t solving the problem. Yes Texas has a problem. The solution isn’t just to bus immigrants it’s to work with the Federal government and other states to get funding and help resettling.

This is another example of Abbott more interested in rhetoric and stunts than he is in actually solving problems.

 

Biden is issuing a rule today that will allow expedited deportations for 95% of cases. None of these "apprehensions" are coming into the country. There's a monthly quota allowable migrants into the country and they have to come through the app in Mexico or colombia.

 

When you see right wing trolls fear mongering about the upcoming end of title 42 and claim were being invaded just remember these right wing trolls are lying. 99% of people applying at the border will be denied right away nd deported the same day.

 

It's why Trump won Ohio and Wisconsin in 2016. Trump won running on vilifying Hispanic immigrants.

I did some work in rural Iowa and Minnesota a couple of years ago. I didn't see a lot of Hispanics. I understand Chicago IA a different animal.

I don't know how many conservative voters in the Midwest by into the vilification but jobs are a real concern. My attitude is if GM can't hire Hispanics they will just move the plant to Mexico. They already did 50 years ago.

It blows my mind how many people fight globalization Globalization started a long time ago. If you're fighting it you already lost more than likely before you were born

 

@rocketsjudoka
You saying the Mexican food isn’t good in
Minnesota ?!
How is that possible

 

Wait a minute…. 27,000 people apprehended and 1 felon… one firearm and 3 sex offenders? That is it… out of 27,000 people? I thought these were all gang members and murderers.

 

He forgets to mention all 27k were deported

 

If you grabbed 27k random people off the street anywhere in the USA i guarantee you'd get much more than 1 felon, 3 sex offenders and 1 gun.

 

Would the bad guys line up to get processed or take the road less traveled?

 

My guess is they would get a prime time slot on Fox News, I heard Rupert dumped a bad guy not long ago and needs a replacement.

 

Texas and the states taking the brunt of the immigrants need to push harder for a solution at the national level. The politicians in power, in Texas really don’t want a solution though because busses and round ups are winning political issues.

 

Kim, we have the lowest unemployment rate in texan history right now. The USA unemployment rate is 3.4 which is the lowest its been since lbj was POTUS. Workforce participation for prime age adults is at historic highs. 2 million more jobs have been added right now than at any point in 2019.

We'll be okay.