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[WC Semifinals] (6)Golden State vs. (7)LA Lakers

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Apr 30, 2023.

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(6)Golden State vs. (7)Los Angeles

Poll closed May 3, 2023.
  1. Warriors in 4

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  2. Warrior in 5

    9.1%
  3. Warriors in 6

    27.3%
  4. Warriors in 7

    18.2%
  5. Lakers in 7

    11.4%
  6. Lakers in 6

    27.3%
  7. Lakers in 5

    2.3%
  8. Lakers in 4

    4.5%
  1. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

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    37-17 FT Disparity
     
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  2. roslolian

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    For GSW to act like the NBA hates them is just cringe af.
     
  3. roslolian

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    Check the 3 pt attempts you'll know why there is a disparity. You cant just keep shooting 3s and then wonder why you have less fts than the opponent.
     
  4. hitman1900

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    I mean they're just continuing the season trend. Lakers led the league in free throw attempts and warriors were last in free throw attempts for the year. I'm not sure why this is surprising plus warriors shoot a ton of 3's. Who is their inside presence that deserves free throws?
     
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    Don’t even respond to warriors trolling like this
     
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    The fact that these guys almost missed playins and now likely to make conference finals tells you how important having a superstar on your team. It's almost unfair how much of a difference 1 guy make. Kings and Knicks were killing it but deep down everybody knew they would fall short because they didn't have a Lebron, Curry or even AD. The fact that being a VERY GOOD team isn't enough is simply brutal. That's also why we should lower our expectations from our young core. I don't see a future superstar so i just want us to be Kings at first.
     
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    It's the NBA special - superstars get superstar calls. The clue lies in when these same players turn into being like every other players in FIBA (most recently Giannis), or when NBA role players turn into game-changers in FIBA when they are asked to be the man in their country.
     
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  10. daywalker02

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    FIBA ball is great, you can have Ricky Rubio and Rudy Fernandez play like they are actually stars.

    They play 10 minutes a quarter and every 3 point shot is like a long 2.
     
  11. roslolian

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    It's actually the opposite. Not sure how that became your take watching the Lakers lol. Bron and AD were healthy alongside WB when the season started and they were 2-9. Its only when Lakers traded for Russ, Hachimura, Vanderbilt and AR started getting PT when they started winning games.

    IMO what this tells us is we need a deep team to win games now because just 1-2 superstars aint enough to do anything anymore. There's so many good players now no 1 or 2 guys can make a lot of difference. PHX has KD, CP3, Booker AND Ayton and they still not favored vs Nuggets who basically have Jokic and a bunch of semi stars and role players.

    Yeah Sacramento and Grizzlies lost, but the team they lost to had both depth and HOF superstars so its not a fair comparison. If the Lakers only had WB Lebron and AD they would have lost that series or most likely not even make the playoffs.
     
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    The new cap rules are extremely punishing to teams trying to field multiple max players. We're going to see teams really go hard into trying to find value in the draft. Building through free agency & trading for max players is over. Teams will be able to pay 1-2 guys that kind of money and that's it. I think we're going to see a lot more championships that are in the mold of having one clear superstar and a deep team around him.

    I do still think as a general rule (there are exceptions to every rule) you're going to need at least one top 15 player to win it all, no matter how deep you are.
     
  13. JumpMan

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    Gematria points to Lakers. Illuminati points to Lakers. Magnets will be in effect if necessary.

    LeBron can become 5-6 in the Finals in the year of a king's coronation that occurred on 5/6. The Lakers already won a game on the anniversary of the King James Bible being printed and they won last night. That's 2 that fit the narrative. The Game 7 win against the Warriors also happened on a day related to the royal family, the birthday of King James. King James son was named King Charles just like the current king. I'm out on the NBA if this happens, BTW.
     
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    Not sure why the BBS won’t auto fill @RocketsTruth when @-ing, but we can still see his profile and posting history.

    last seen Dec 2017
     
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    Hahaha awesome to see Warriors fans crying over referees, and they do have a point for sure. But they’re so used to getting away with fouls that they’re shocked now they are called.

    Nuggets will take care of the winner anyway though.
     
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    Amazingly, you don't get to shoot alot of free throw, if shoot alot of three pointer or don't play in the post/paint, possibly generate alot of points in there, while drawing fouls. Absolutely astounding that you won't have too many free throws, if you don't do that. It's so useless in fact, some of the greatest players in the game used, because I don't know it somehow gets the other team into foul trouble. LeBron knows, so does Harden and Luka. Other side can play as aggressive defense, because ... they magically end up in foul trouble.
     
  17. invocux

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    Having superstar(s) are must to win everything. You can have depth but it won't be enough when you face a truly top tier team. Phx are 2-1 down only because KD has been average first 2 games. When superstar do superstar things like that last game in which both dropped almost 90 together they don't lose. If KD and Booker doesn't suck like the first 2 games Nuggets are out.

    A deep roster is also an important factor but if you have true superstars, if they are not injury prone players, you don't necessarily need a super deep roster. They will carry you. However if you don't have superstar(s) a deep roster will not get you to the promised lands. They will always fall short. Basketball is not like football. Sevilla can win Europa League by beating better teams than them by building a culture and bringing right pieces together. NBA's Sevilla, maybe Knicks i dunno, can't win the league. Superstars in NBA are more dominant than superstars in football. They almost always drop 30-40 even 60 pts. It's easier for a bb superstar to carry his team than a football superstar and when you see him on the court you immediately can feel his presence. They are just too dominant and makes things so easy for others.
     
  18. roslolian

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    You said you watched the Lakers and got your take from them. That aint the take from the Lakers cuz clearly they took off when they got depth, not because they added a super star.

    There's a lot of stars in the league now, even defeated teams like Grizzlies, Clippers or Minny featured teams with multiple stars. So having a deep team nowadays also means being led by a star or 2. My point is now you cant just get 2 or 3 stars, pair them with scrubs and call it a night. The Big 3 system like what Miami had doesnt work anymore, cuz 1 or 2 guys cant dominate and separate themselves from anybody else anymore.
     
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    That is because they have superstar calls and rules that may favor superstars.

    If the NBA had FIBA rules, then the situation would look different.

    It is all about circumstances too.

    The NBA is celebrating number games like it is the best thing in the world while in Euro leagues team play is strongly emphasized.

    People there come to see Real Madrid or Regal Barcelona and not just Euro Doncic.
     
  20. pmac

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    I mean, you say that but NBA stars still are great in FIBA play too. It's just everyone's home country's role players are not at the same level.

    It's like watching Nets beat the Blazers and coming to the conclusion that stars don't matter. Sure team basketball wins when a team stacked with high level role players goes against a team with a star and nothing else. But, if a team has a star and some level of competent team around them they will beat other teams.

    That's why USA basketball wins in FIBA play when they bother to construct a team. And teams like Spain and Argentina were great when they had nba stars.
     

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