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*Movie* - The Village

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Sonny, Jul 29, 2004.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    I understand that
    That is why i was not OVERLY bothered by it
    BUT
    He still could have kicked the sh*t out of the door.
    *I* could kick out a Closet Door and I know I cannot
    jump on top of a house.

    As I have stated. . . WHAT M NIGHT was *TRYING* to do was GREAT
    IMO . . he just did not tell the story well. . ..

    Question: THE DEFINING MOMENT . . the Hostage Situation
    WHY WAS THE ALIEN EVEN THERE . .. his people were pulling out
    Revenge?
    1. the alien was the same one from the pantry [chopped fingers]
    2. The alien NEVER SAW Gibson [ok maybe he tracked him by smell . . i guess ]
    3. Why was he holding the kid Hostage? To get out . .. he could have BEEN LEFT . . .to threaten Joaquin and Gibson? uhm . . . ok . .but that kind of kills the Revenge thing. . . cause why not just kill them when they came up??

    Rocket River
     
  2. MadMax

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    seriously, why does that matter, RR? yes, the aliens were pulling out...and we don't know the reason why this one was here...maybe lost? maybe left behind? who knows? there was fighting between japanese and allied forces throughout the pacific well after the treaty was signed ending the war. but who cares?
     
  3. Rocket River

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    well . . . the point is. . . while i'm watching this pivotal scene
    these kind of LOGICAL question should not be nagging me
    it is POOR Storytelling
    The Scene had not been set correctly IMO
    unlike 6th Sense - where everything was set perfectly
    when the twist was reveal . . .just about every question that
    flashed in ya mind was answer. . with a OH . .THAT IS WHY SHE DID _______________

    Rocket River
    "If there is a shotgun in the room in scene one . . . someone better shot it by the end of the movie . . . . by the same token . . if a shot gun is shot in the final act. . it have best been seen somewhere before then" - Old Screen Writer adage
     
  4. Harrisment

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    Fantastic post! :D
     
  5. rimbaud

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    The problem with Shyamalan is not only that he is a one-trick pony, it is also that he is completely predictable. None of his movies have been surprising or shocking to me. Almost without fail the first 15-30 minutes hammers you over the head with "clues" that make watching the rest of it pointless. Signs was the worst in that there were multiple things that happened at the end but I already knew all of them (faith, baseball bat, asthma saving the son, water, etc.). It is not like a cool puzzle to figure out, either. It is simplistic and cheap, in my opinion.

    I guess I will watch it when it goes on Netflix, but I am disinterested.
     
  6. MadMax

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    i think you may be too smart to enjoy movies!! :D if you saw sixth sense coming, i give you full credit. hell, i didn't see signs coming, either. i didn't see the events conspiring the way they did.

    am i an idiot?? maybe you'd better not answer that question!
     
  7. AGBee

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    The Village sounds horrible from the early reviews. I'll watch it on TV some year.
     
  8. MadMax

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    No you are not an idiot and I am not too smart to enjoy movies. Seriously, though, they were all painfully obvious to me. Perhaps it is just his particular method that makes it so obvious/boring to me. Just a personal way brains work...I don't know. All I know is that those elements bother me more than his poor writing (which is often poor) and details that others complain about. Perhaps it is also that the "surprises" are so condescendingly heavy-handed that I am put off by figuring them out so quickly. Again, who knows, but I am not trying to say that I am just too smart for his movies.
     
  10. dean

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    is this movie considered comedy? on tvguide.com it lists the genre as comedy and horror

    Country of Origin:
    U.S.
    Genre:
    Comedy; Horror
    Color or b/w:
    Color
    Production Co(s).:
    Blinding Edge Pictures; Touchstone Pictures
    Released By:
    Buena Vista
    MPAA Rating:
    PG-13
    Parental Rating:
    Cautionary; some scenes objectionable


    http://tvguide.com/movies/database/ShowMovie.asp?MI=45399
     
  11. pgabriel

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    This is funny,

    I was watching the ABC showing of "Unbreakable" Saturday, and I was thinking about starting a thread on this. This guy is so arrogant. Throughout the showing of "Unbreakable", at each commercial break, he's like, don't miss. I'm going to show you seven minutes of my new unbelievable movie. I'm thinking get over yourself dude.

    It was the first time I saw "Unbreakable". The movie was pretty good. I admit, I got sucked into the ending, but the entire movie was long and drawn out. They pretty much proved the guy was special at the beginning so everything else was just gravy. Still, with the ending pretty decent.

    But this guy has going down hill since "The Sixth Sense" which was an unbelievable movie IMO. Then he does the same trick in "Unbreakable" but a lessor movie. Then he tries the same thing in "Signs" but it just didn't work. All writers/directors should be careful of making movies about aliens, because there's nothing more disaappointing than stupid aliens. They've been studying our planet for thousands of years, and apparently missed the fact that the substance our planet is mostly made of is their weakness. And they weren't prepared for it. Come on, that's just silly, and too glaring to look past. And as Rimbaud posted, the little details weren't that little in "Signs" because he beat you over the head with them throughout the movie. The ending wasn't even surprising.

    I might check out this movie, but "The Manchurian Candidate" looks a lot more interesting if I get a chance to actually get out this weekend. I hope for Knight's sake that his movie is good, beause at the rate he is going, he might be out of the movie making business just as fast as he made a name for himself.

    Oh yeah, stop putting yourself in the movies also.
     
  12. Mulder

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    I can almost guarantee that they won't be able to hold a candle to the original...
     
  13. mrpaige

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    I didn't really like the original. It falls into that category (like "Ocean's 11") that seems to be widely known and respected but also largely unseen and, therefore, thought to be better than it is by a lot of people.
     
  14. Mulder

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    I've seen it many times. Directed by John Frankenheimer. One of my favorites and one of the few films that will allow one to argue with a straight face that Frank Sinatra could act and that Angela Lansbury can be a real b****.
     
  15. MadMax

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    didn't sinatra win an oscar??
     
  16. mrpaige

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    I don't deny that some people like the original.

    I just don't think a lot of people who hold it up as classic cinema have ever seen it. It becomes one of those things that becomes "common knowledge" (a lot like how Citizen Kane always tops the "best movie ever" lists. For so long, it's been hailed as the best movie ever that people feel like they should also consider it as such even if they didn't care for it. I think Kane is an excellent and groundbreaking movie, but I don't think it's quite as good as its reputation. I would put the original Candidate in that same group.... except that I didn't like it, and I like Kane).
     
  17. MadMax

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    i own Citizen Kane on video, and I completely agree. great movie. best ever?? hardly.
     
  18. mrpaige

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    Yes. For Best Supprting Actor in 'From Here to Eternity'
     
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    Let's make one thing clear here about Shymalan- he's a gifted director, no matter what reservations anybody has about his writing abilities.

    His writing does appear to have become somewhat static, so it may well be time to inject some outside help for creativity's sake, which I doubt will happen.

    He's too proud/scared of what might happen. If a movie he didn't have complete control over failed, he'd be more paranoid than ever about having others meddle with his "genius."

    But even worse, if it were successful he'd be in the ironic position of not holding as much leverage over the studio funding his project.

    They'd see that his gifts as a director are unquestioned, but that maybe they should have more oversight concerning the script, which I'm sure he'd hate.

    In the end, he can ride the "Sixth Sense" gravy train for the rest of his life, because I, and America in general, will keep on coming back for more, because it is good entertainment, even if its gradually becoming more and more forgettable.
     
  20. Coach AI

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    Out of curiousity, when did you watch Sixth Sense?

    Did you know there was even a secret to be discovered? Did you know there was a surprise ending, or a mystery at all?

    Out of my experience, even the slightest hint of any of this is a risk in destroying that movie. And then people don't understand what the fuss is about.

    I saw Sixth Sense cold. Knew absolutely nothing about it, nothing about what I was supposed to be expecting, nothing about trying to figure something out. I thought it did a good job of trying to keep things quiet until release.

    All I knew was that it was about a kid who could see dead people, or something.

    I think that makes all the difference in the world.
     

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