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What is the line-up once everyone is healthy

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rockbox, Apr 24, 2023.

  1. The Real Shady

    The Real Shady Contributing Member

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    If both Tucker and Yordan continue to have a .900+ OPS in the 2nd half of the season and Abreu is under .800 then it would make sense to have both of them in the top 4 of the lineup and drop Abreu to 5. I would keep Yordan in the top 3 though.
     
  2. Tomstro

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    Altuve 2B
    Tucker RF
    Bregman 3B
    Yordan LF/DH
    Abreu 1B
    Brantley/ Julks DH/LF
    Diaz C
    Meyers/ Chas CF
    Pena SS
     
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  3. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports

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    Can any of them play first base? It feels like that will be our weak link as soon as next year (and maybe this year).
     
  4. IdStrosfan

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    Generally the lineup should be as balanced as possible with on base guys in front of sluggers and the best hitters getting the most plate appearances.

    A healthy Astros team has 4 guys who project to be over 25% above league average hitting (+125 OPS+). They should be the top 4 hitters in the lineup.

    Altuve, Bregman, Alvarez, Tucker.

    The most recent statistical studies say the best overall hitter should hit 2nd. That's Alvarez.

    Tucker is the other lefty, and the most slug over OB hitter among the remaining 3 so he hits cleanup.

    That lets Altuve and Bregman slide into their usual leadoff and 3rd spots.

    The best run producer remaining should hit 5th. That's Abreu ( theoretically and historically. Fingers crossed)

    I would put Pena 6th because of his power, and the need for some protection. The #7 hitter should provide more than #8 or 9.

    Brantley hits 7th because he's the best hitter remaining, helps the L/R balance, and should help Pena get better pitches than any remaining players.

    McCormick/Meyers hit 8th. Ideally there is some additional production here if teams bring in lefty relievers to face Brantley

    Catching position is 9th.

    Altuve
    Alvarez
    Bregman
    Tucker
    Abreu
    Pena
    Brantley
    McCormick/Meyers
    catcher.
     
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  5. Rockets FTW

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    Something like that bound to happen. Too much 4A depth.
     
  6. Mr.Pringles

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    Altuve 2B
    Pena SS
    Alvarez LF
    Bregman 3B
    Tucker RF
    Abreu 1B
    Brantley DH
    Dubon CF
    Maldonado C

    Diaz C
    McCormick OF
    Meyers CF
    Julks LF

    Dubon spells everyone in the infield on days off.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    What is in the lineup once everyone is healthy?

    Carrot & Celery snacks
    Grains
    Spinach
    Salmon
    Tomato
    Chicken
    Squash
    Beef
    Mushrooms
    Onions
    Citrus (gotta watch that scurvy)
    Herbs
    Potatoes...

    just regular stuff
     
  8. cardpire

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    i think the additions by deadline time will be a replacement backup corner infielder for hensley, and an established catcher that is under contract beyond this year. and, of course, needlessly grabbing a lefty bullpen arm for dusty.
     
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  9. Fulgore

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    Lineup I would like to see

    Tuve
    Pena
    Alvarez
    Tuck
    Bregman
    Abreu
    Brantley
    Dubon (cf)
    Diaz
     
  10. Snake Diggit

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    I think this would be their most effective lineup:
    2B Altuve
    LF Brantley
    3B Bregman
    DH Alvarez
    C Diaz
    RF Tucker
    1B Abreu
    SS Pena
    CF Dubon

    That lineup will never happen consistently but I think it would produce the most runs.
     
  11. Tuckmose

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    I think it's irresponsible to assume Brantley will come back good as new, the man's turning 36 in a couple of weeks.

    Really sucks that Dirden is putting up such a clunker season in AAA after tearing the cover off the ball in ST.
     
  12. Yordan The Great

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    If Dusty had half a brain:

    Altuve
    Pena
    Alvarez
    Bregman
    Tucker
    Abreu
    Brantley
    McCormick/Meyers
    Diaz (demote Maldy to backup catcher)
     
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  13. Yordan The Great

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    Diaz is not ready for prime time. This is a terrible lineup, you're really trying to sabotage Pena.
     
  14. Francis3422

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    Altuve
    Breggy
    Alvarez
    Tucker
    Abreu
    Brantley
    Pena
    Catcher
    CF
     
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  15. IdStrosfan

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    It's getting harder and harder for me to stick to my belief that Pena does not get on base enough to hit 2nd.

    I also see that they are considering using Brantley as the backup for Abreu which would help give him more chances for PAs and give Abreu rest.

    In the past, when a player struggled like this, Dusty has given him a "work day" out of the lineup. Abreu needs that.
     
  16. Yordan The Great

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    Oh Jesus Christ what the hell happened to Brantley as a must have #2 hole hitter? After all that talk and now you present this lineup? That's quite ridiculous.
     
  17. Alimoe84

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    The Lineup Should be...
    Altuve
    Pena (Dusty will put Brantley here, but the guy has proven to be stellar in the 2-hole)
    Alvarez (Should always get a first inning at-bat)
    Bregman (Because there's no one else worth putting and we know Dusty would never follow Yordan with a lefty).
    Tucker
    Abreu
    Brantley
    Meyers
    DIAZ (I wish. Maldonado behind the plate is so overrated).
     
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  18. IdStrosfan

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    A guy can change his mind.

    My position that Brantley needed to be the #2 hitter was based on the fact that only Brantley and Pena were considered.

    A thought came to me that Alvarez and Tucker need to be In the top 1/2 of the lineup and if Brantley is there too, then all 3 lefties are 2-5 with 5 consecutive righties after them.

    It makes more sense to break that up with a lefty, and it can't be Akvarez or Tucker.
     
  19. IdStrosfan

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    I about lost my mind when they put Springer in the leadoff spot.

    Same thing with Pena.

    But just like with George, Jeremy is making it really hard to keep saying it's not the right move.

    Things change. I need to learn to adapt to these changes in philosophy.
     
  20. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

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    Our manager don't care about any recent studies buddy
     
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