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2023 NFL Draft Thread

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  1. deb4rockets

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    I am not in for Richardson or Levis with a #2 pick. I'm not even wanting them at a #12 pick. Their turnover ratios are terrible compared to Young, Stroud, and Hooker. I don't get the hype on Richardson. Sure, he's a big dude, but his stats don't impress me, especially when you compare him to Young and Stroud. He could get better obviously, but so can anyone else.

    Richardson 6'4 244LBS
    53.8 % 2,549YDS 17TD 9INT

    Will Levis 6'4" 228LBS
    65.4% 2,406YDS 19TD 10INT

    Hooker 6'4" 222 LBS
    69.6% 3,135YDS 27TD 2INT

    Young 5'10 204LBS
    64.5% 3,328YDS 32TD 5INT

    Stroud 6'3" 213LBS
    66.3% 3,688YDS 41TD 6INT
     
  2. Fulgore

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    And that’s all you’re going by? Go look up Tom Brady and Josh Allen’s college stats.
     
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    Like I said, I don't get how anyone is high on Levis and Richardson compared to Stroud and Young. Sure, there's a chance Richardson could end up as good as those guys, but I'd much rather have Young or Stroud. My guess is that we would suffer through a lot more turnovers with Richardson and Levis as they grow. With our defense that wouldn't be a good thing. I'd rather get the best QB at #2, or at least the best defensive player. I'd rather take the best defensive player at #12 as well. Our defense is horrible! I'd take my chances on a better QB next year if we don't get Young or Stroud. We can't win **** with a piss poor defense and a work in progress QB.
     
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    I have a feeling that once that 10 minutes starts and the Texans are on the clock, it going to be like me back in the day calling KLOL trying to win RUSH tickets at the Summit.
     
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    https://theathletic.com/4445974/2023/04/25/hendon-hooker-nfl-draft-tennessee-acl/

    Hendon Hooker has his date.

    One of the top quarterback prospects in the NFL Draft, Hooker’s status is still somewhat murky as he recovers from the torn ACL in his left knee. But the 25-year-old former Tennessee star told The Athletic last week that he’ll be fully cleared in about four months.

    “I’m able to throw routes on air and stuff,” Hooker said during a promotion for Six Star Pro Nutrition’s partnership with Feeding America. “I’ll just be a non-active at first in terms of real competition. I’m just going to continue to heal, take it day by day.

    “I’ll get cleared 100 percent by Sept. 1.”

    Hooker also believes he’d be able to participate in practice in some capacity before Sept. 1 because there’s minimal risk in getting hit in such a setting. So therein lies the dilemma for interested teams.

    Practically speaking, it’s unlikely a team would draft Hooker with the intention of starting him in Week 1, which will be nine days after his projected clearance. But as a potential first- or second-rounder, Hooker will be expected to start at some point early in his career, so he’d make sense for a team that might be transitioning at the position by 2024.

    Hooker hasn’t taken this opportunity for granted, particularly with the speculation that he could be a first-round pick.

    “Really honestly, it’s been a dream of mine for a very long time,” Hooker said. “I don’t know when it really (set) in. I want to say, honestly, around 2019, I was like, ‘OK, I can really be a first-round pick at some point.’ I thought I should have (declared for the draft) last year, but I made a good decision coming back. It really benefited me.”

    Hooker finally got a chance to start for Virginia Tech in 2019 after logging four carries and no pass attempts in his first two seasons. And after transferring to Tennessee in 2021 — when he exploded for 2,945 passing yards, 620 rushing yards and 36 total touchdowns — Hooker might have worked his way toward the top of a mediocre quarterback class.

    But head coach Josh Heupel convinced him to return, and Hooker’s mother wanted him to get his master’s degree. He was a Heisman Trophy favorite by the time of his Nov. 19 injury — 3,135 passing yards, 430 rushing yards and 32 total touchdowns — and there was growing debate over where a healthy Hooker would have fit among the top-five QBs in the class.

    Even though he’s got the most high-profile injury in the draft, Hooker has accepted reality and controlled the controllable. He still attended the Senior Bowl even though he couldn’t work out, and that’s where Hooker kick-started an offseason’s worth of terrific interviews with NFL executives and coaches.

    “It’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity,” Hooker said. “So I’m extremely blessed to be in this position and to be able to venture out and travel everywhere and talk football at a high level with all these executives and pick their brains. I always want to leave with some type of gem. You’ll never know where that will come from. It’s just a great opportunity to be able to be in this position.”

    While a dose of frustration would be understandable for anyone in Hooker’s position, he’s long since gotten to the point where there’s only one way to handle this adversity.

    “Just realizing I have no choice but to take it day by day,” Hooker said. “My leg won’t allow for me to do stuff if I try to rush it. Just continuing to be positive and control what I can control.”

    Since Hooker’s medical reports have been readily accessible for months, teams have been more interested in getting a feel for him in the film room. They’ve wanted to see how Hooker could process information at an NFL level, which is typical for any quarterback from a passing-friendly offense that involves pace and spacing to create easy throws.

    He’s gotten a jump on these interviews by watching film and recalling plays with his trainer during his rehab sessions.

    “I’m a football junkie, so whenever we start to dive into film and recall (during team visits), they’ll install some plays and some terminology to me and how they read things,” Hooker said. “We might go out on the field and walk through (the play), and I’m able to go through everything as if I’m already on the team. I remember a couple teams gave me their first two weeks of install in a two-hour span. I’m diving into a lot of information at one time and able to recall everything after they teach it to me. That’s probably the biggest thing.”

    Hooker, a lauded leader, also had full control of the Tennessee offense at the line of scrimmage. He was responsible for the checks, and that’s not as much of the norm as teams would like these days.

    “I’ve done everything (from an offensive standpoint),” Hooker said. “In high school, we ran every offense there is known to man — wing-T, spread, power-I, everything. Me just being a natural quarterback, honestly, I tell (teams) all the time playing under center is not a problem to me. I have extremely big hands (10.5 inches, tied for the second biggest among the 74 draft-eligible quarterbacks). I’m extremely vocal at the line of scrimmage.

    “A lot of times, they want to see me in action. (Visiting) teams, we walked out onto the field, and I’m in my slacks and polo. I’m out there barking out calls under center, going through footwork just like a walk-through. I think a lot of that stuff is pretty cool to see. They want to see how I react if I mess up on a play. All eyes are on me. Everything I do is being judged to the T. Whenever I’m out there, I’m really just relaxing and having a good time. We’re playing football. Being able to learn, I like being in control. A lot of guys might not want to have all that responsibility at the line of scrimmage. I do. I would rather have all the freedom in the world to get up there and be in control.”

    The control, at this stage, is minimal. Assuming Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, Anthony Richardson and Will Levis are the first quarterbacks off the board, it’s unclear when the fifth QB will be taken — and which team will make that pick.

    And presuming a team takes Hooker with the intention of redshirting him, barring injury or poor play from the starter, might it prefer to do it in the first round in order to secure the fifth-year option?

    Hooker wouldn’t have the chance to be a high-round pick if it weren’t for a productive rehabilitation process. And some 286 days after his Nov. 19 injury, he expects to be cleared for takeoff.

    Teams will declare in the coming days where that value lies.

    “It’s a product of what I’m putting in my body, and my nutrition and how I can heal so fast,” Hooker said. “It’s a blessing. I think it’s just what I’m putting in my body and the consistent work that I do. Even though I’m on the road every day (meeting with teams and preparing for the draft), I’m still able to work out, work my leg out and become stronger and better.”
     
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  6. J.R.

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    https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/04/25/2023-nfl-draft-quarterback-prospects-nfl-coaches

    …the 2023 class isn’t exactly perfect. It has potential, to be sure. It also has potholes.

    “I’d say it’s a risky group,” says a veteran NFC quarterbacks coach. “There’s not a clear-cut guy—there’s no Andrew Luck, no Joe Burrow, no Trevor Lawrence. I’m glad we don’t need one. … I’d said the least amount of risk is with [C.J.] Stroud, because he has size, arm talent and a lot of production in the Big Ten, but he’s not a real big creator. They all have flaws.”

    The consensus is that this crew is at once enticing and imperfect. Here, more specifically, is how the league sees each of the top guys.

    Bryce Young

    Ceiling comp: Shorter, more improvisational Drew Brees

    There’s little disagreement on what a taller, bigger Young would be. “Other than his size,” says one AFC OC, “he does everything the way you want a quarterback to do it—great accuracy, great vision, moves well in the pocket, and, as a testament to him, he’s not throwing to the guys Tua [Tagovailoa] and Mac [Jones] were.” An NFC passing-game coordinator adds, “The instincts stand out, first and foremost, his eyes, his feel for the game. His arm is good enough, not great, but the other thing he has is his anticipation. How well he can see the game makes up for the arm. … And he plays with his eyes up at all times. There are very few times he’s just looking to run. He remains a passer at all times.” Another NFC OC adds, “You see the point guard of the offense—poise, instincts, he’s twitchy, a real twitchy athlete, twitchy arm, accuracy, throws with anticipation, his pocket movement, he’s tough in pocket.” Which is where some “smaller, slighter Joe Burrow” comps are coming from, and how the Steph Curry comps came to be, too.

    Young has also been a home run hitter in just about all his meetings. “The intangibles with him are off the charts,” says an AFC passing-game coordinator. “We [met with] him … he just has a great presence. He’s laid back, confident. He’s definitely comfortable being himself. Just seems like overall as likable a guy as you’ll find.” Young’s score of 98 on the S2 test, which beat high-scorers Burrow, Josh Allen and Justin Fields, is mirrored by his mastery of the pro-style Alabama scheme he ran, one that skewed away from the more RPO-heavy looks the Tide had run in recent years, to take advantage of his mind for the game.

    With all that established, his size is his size. He was listed at 194 pounds at Bama, weighed 204 at the combine, didn’t work out there, then chose not to weigh in before he did work out at his pro day. Which only furthers concern over what his playing weight will be in the pros, and the lack of a precedent for someone his size. “I like everything about Bryce—great interview, great intelligence, feel, instincts, he’s an accurate passer—but I am concerned about his size,” says an NFC quarterbacks coach. “I don’t like his bone structure. It’s different than [Drew] Brees or [Russell] Wilson. I didn’t like Teddy Bridgewater’s bone structure, either. It’s still a big man’s game. Maybe he’ll play for 20 years, and I’ll be wrong. But the game’s changed.”

    Another concern related to his size is that at Alabama, Young was deployed heavily out of the shotgun, and plenty of NFL folks figured that was done to keep his vision clean—so if you play under center, or with the quarterback’s back to the line of scrimmage a lot, there is projection here. And there were times, to some, where he played too much on his toes, or couldn’t flick the ball out of tight spaces because of his stature. “Where he struggles,” says the AFC passing-game coordinator, “is when the pocket gets pushed into him. He can get overwhelmed.”

    An NFC quarterbacks coach said that happens, he thinks, because “his arm’s not strong. It’s strong enough. But there’s not a lot of leeway. He needs to be on time, and usually is, because he doesn’t have the arm strength to make up for it. He can’t throw it harder to get it there. … He makes up for some of it because he can move, throw from different platforms, throw it quick, move people with his eyes, and throw a guy open. He sees it, and the ball comes out of his hand faster than anyone else, as fast as I’ve seen. It’s like he has a fiber-optic cable in his body, and everyone else is on dial up. But that’s still something to manage.”

    One other small drawback? His footwork needs fine-tuning, but that, most of these coaches believe, could be cleaned up over an offseason or two.

    C.J. Stroud

    Ceiling comp: Shorter, quicker Matt Ryan

    As coaches have studied the class, Stroud seems to have settled in as the quarterback who you have to project the least on. “Finally, the light bulb went on for me with him,” says an NFC quarterbacks coach. “I love him. He’s the safest pick of these top guys, and if I’m Carolina, I pick him [No. 1]. He does everything well. What’s missing comes down to running. He’s shown he can run; he just doesn’t, or hasn’t shown it consistently, like he did in the Georgia game, where he can create a play outside the play that was called. … It’s like with [Kirk] Cousins—what’s keeping him from being a blue-chip player is how much he does on his own. … But he’s the best passer of the class, he throws the appropriate ball almost every time, right amount of air, location, it’s on time, and it’s easy for him. He’s very natural.” An NFC passing-game coordinator adds, “He’s definitely the purest passer of the group, and one of the more pure passers to come out in a while. He’s accurate to all levels, understands how to pace the ball, and throws a really catchable ball underneath.” And an AFC pass-game coordinator piggybacks on that, saying, “He throws it really well. I’m not sure what his elite trait is. But I like him. I think he’s solid player and a really accurate passer.”

    What makes Stroud’s evaluation a bit difficult for teams is how that Georgia game—through which Stroud shined, playing the toughest, most talented defense he faced as a collegian—looked different from all his other starts. It was like he was answering all the questions at once. “The athleticism is the only question, and against Georgia, he moves around, he eludes the rush,” says an NFC offensive coordinator. “And you see arm strength, the ability to throw the football, the decision-making was really good. He’s not a runner, but in a drop-back game, you saw he was good enough to avoid and not take sacks.” Another NFC quarterbacks coach adds, “You watch that Georgia game; it’s really good. … It’s possible the light just turned on for him. The game is changing with guys who can create, so it could be as simple as him watching guys like [Patrick] Mahomes, Allen, and saying, I can do that. There’s a fine line coaching that, too, but they seemed to get there against Georgia.”

    Another NFC offensive coordinator mentioned a bit of a robotic delivery with Stroud that is common in quarterbacks who’ve come out of Ohio State, but agreed with a few others that Ryan Day and the Buckeyes staff seemed to be giving Stroud a little more responsibility at the line than they had with Dwayne Haskins and Justin Fields, which is a good sign that he’ll adapt easily to an NFL offense. “With Dwayne and Justin, the types of concepts they had, they were half-field reads, high-lows, easy stuff for colleges to do,” says our first NFC QBs coach. “In a lot of cases, it was read the corner and go. A good college offense. And with C.J., you saw more full-field reads, more back-to-the-defense play-action, NFL-style reads that are difficult. That got me off [the comparison]. The thing that is still there, is he had better players around him than everyone. His wideouts would be worse in Carolina than they were last year at Ohio State.”

    Conversely, there have been some questions about maturity (in how he’s taken criticism from the outside) and willingness to stick his nose in there and run (another one he answered against Georgia). “Sometimes, he’d turn down runs,” says an AFC OC. “He doesn’t always make plays with his legs. He’s not a dynamic athlete by any stretch. He’s good enough. If he plays like he did in playoffs, you’re getting a really good quarterback—you’re betting a little on that being what you’ll get. Hopefully, he’s grown and matured through it. He’s a really good player, got all you need to ask for in a quarterback. He’s first overall-worthy.”

    And some of that growth will have to go back to how he handles things getting jumbled and chaotic on him. “I saw some teams heat him up playing Cover Zero,” says an NFC passing-game coordinator. “And I’d love to get answers from him of what he was seeing, and where he was going on those looks. … I know he can process. But in those situations, does he click through it, one, two, three? I want to see it more. … You see a lot more [of him] throwing in rhythm on one-hitch timing.”

    From a technical standpoint, too, there’s a little that can be worked over, to make him more efficient. “He gets a little wide in his base,” says our NFC OC. And there was some concern over an aptitude test score, but he did well enough in his meetings to allay some of those worries.
     
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    Anthony Richardson

    Ceiling comp: Raw Josh Allen

    Richardson’s not perfect, of course. He has only 13 starts. He had around a quarter of the college pass attempts Patrick Mahomes had at Texas Tech. He’s been hurt. But the ceiling is awfully tantalizing. “I understand the issues,” says an AFC passing-game coordinator. “But, for me, if you’re picking first overall, it’s either Bryce or Richardson. Bryce has the elite mental game, intangibles, leadership, all that. Richardson is a f---ing freak. There’s not a lot of people that walk the earth like him. There are accuracy issues, but I think coaches will be able to help with that. Now, they weren’t very good around him, the scheme was simple, so you’ll have to do stuff to get him easier throws. But in the meantime, while he learns, he’ll make a lot of plays with his feet. … And he throws it better than Cam [Newton], Jalen [Hurts] or Lamar [Jackson] did in a workout.” An NFC passing-game coordinator adds, “Just as an athlete, he’s explosive in every single way. I was sort of expecting Lamar [Jackson] as a passer. Then you see some stuff they built into the warmup at his pro day, showing all the throws the guy has, it’s unlike anything I’ve seen from a power standpoint.”

    That’s not it on the wows I got on him. “He is the freakiest athlete probably ever at the position,” says an NFC quarterbacks coach. “[Michael] Vick was fast, but this guy is built at 244. He’s calm in the pocket …” And that’s where things turned a little. “But the accuracy is so scary,” the coach continues. “The short accuracy is so scary. You’ve really got a project in him. And the accuracy, you can develop it, O.K., but a guy who’s accurate is usually accurate coming out of high school and college, and he isn’t. Even Josh Allen, you look at him coming out of Wyoming, he had solid mechanics coming out, and he just had to tweak it. You watch it with this guy, and there are times when he fits it into tight windows, and maybe you can tap into that. But he’s a project. And the hit on it could be huge, because you don’t just find guys like this.”

    Some believe amending the accuracy issue will come down to mechanical fixes, as it did with Allen five years ago. “The easy comp for me is Josh Allen,” says the NFC passing-game coordinator. “It’s fair to look at things fundamentally that he’ll be working on, like widening his base, that might have led to the inaccuracies. You can tell 15-plus [yards], he’s comfortable—all those intermediate and deep throws. He’s top notch in terms of that. Seeing his pro day, and those are routes on air, he didn’t miss over 15 yards. But then the ball’s high, the ball’s low underneath, and that stems from a narrow base.” Others think it’s going to be more complicated than that. “It’s like, Pat Mahomes picked up a baseball at 5 years old and threw it better than anyone—there’s an innate part to this,” says an NFC OC. “And the touch thing can be hard for a big guy who’s long-levered. But maybe you can find a good arm slot for him where he’s more comfortable, and accurate, and not always opening up and ripping it.”

    The other problem is simply that Florida wasn’t better last year, despite having this monster athlete at quarterback. Richardson is compared to Newton a lot, but Newton took a pretty average Auburn team to a national title and won the Heisman. “Shouldn’t the whole team look at him like he’s LeBron?” says another NFC OC of Richardson. “Just by having him playing, shouldn’t they be winning more? People mention Cam; Cam was a super-high-end recruit, ends up at a JC, wins the JC national title, wins at Auburn, willed his team to win the whole thing. So why isn’t this guy dominating?” An AFC OC adds, “It’s a different stratosphere of player. If Richardson is in his second year starting, maybe it happens, maybe it doesn’t. But I can’t compare him to Cam now. He may be a more natural passer than Cam, but he’s not nearly the runner Cam is—Cam was a hard-nosed runner.”

    So, really, this is about how fast he’ll grow in some areas, and whether he’ll be able to grow enough in others. His interviews are a big part of determining that for teams, and he’s been solid in those rooms. While it’s clear just how far he has to go (he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know, so to speak), he’s come off as bright and easygoing, which will help him, given how much of his growth will boil down, simply, to who he is. And from there, it’ll be the plan that’s put before him, with plenty of people thinking the best way to do it with him is to play him early, because he needs the reps, take your lumps while he learns, and, importantly, build the system around him. “They try to make him Peyton [Manning]; it’s gonna look terrible,” says an NFC quarterbacks coach. “He’ll be done quickly if you do that. But if it goes to a place where he goes the [Jalen] Hurts route? Then he’s gonna be special.”

    Will Levis

    Ceiling comp: Carson Wentz

    Levis has gotten knocked around a ton in the predraft process, and could be in for a little bit of a slide Thursday. “I see him as the fourth guy,” says an AFC OC. “Something’s not there with him. Something’s missing. Not to say he won’t be a good quarterback; I wanted to like him more than I did. He has the measurables, can throw it a mile. But he lacks touch and feel and ball placement. He can talk pro systems, because he’s been in them. … If you take him, and use his athleticism, do Josh Allen stuff with him, he may be built for that. But there’s a learning curve as to pace of play, processing as fast as you’d like. You watch it and wish it was better.”

    As a result, the assessments you get back put Levis in with guys who, in the past, have had all the physical traits you’d want, without the instincts and feel for the game to tie them together. In a way, it’s like he’s the anti-Bryce. “I view it as the three, then Levis,” says an NFC passing-game coordinator. “I think it’s a little unfair to group him with the top three guys. He has a powerful arm, and it's a quick arm; there are a lot of revolutions on the ball. That part is pretty special. But I question the natural quarterback play.” An NFC OC says he got some “eerily familiar Blaine Gabbert vibes—he’s a big, strong, pretty dude, that makes you excited. But the game doesn’t make as much sense to him as the other guys.”

    Another NFC OC, who also worried about Richardson’s rocked-up physique, adds, “There’s a block for me; he has scary s--- in his background. He couldn’t win the job at Penn State; he’s a meathead weight-room guy … and watch him throw, he’s muscular and powerful, not fluid. Everything looks violent. And he took bad sacks, so you wonder how much the athleticism does for him, and where his feel and instincts are.” In discussing that part of it, an NFC quarterbacks coach was led to another comp. “He reminds me of Mike McMahon, the kid from Rutgers who played in Detroit. Same kind of guy. Pretty athlete, throws bullets, but the accuracy is bad; mental makeup, he’s full of nervous energy. He’s a Drew Lock–type, good athlete, but doesn’t throw it well enough.”

    Then, there were the interviews. One team heard him say he wouldn’t make excuses for his downturn in play in 2022, as compared to ’21, then had a list of them ready (coordinator change, injuries). Another said he wasn’t pleased when he got asked about eating a banana with the peel on social media. “He’s not a bad guy,” says a second NFC quarterbacks coach. “But he’s very robotic and overly serious; he needs to calm down. He was so angsty.” An AFC passing-game coordinator adds, “He tries to tell you what you want to hear; he gets caught up in it and he’s not being himself. He's trying to be perfect.”

    Now, all this said, he’s beloved in Lexington, he played through a litany of injuries last year without many on the outside knowing it, and he crushed the S2 test, scoring a 93. Kentucky OC Liam Coen, who had Levis in 2021, left for ’22 and is now back, has told teams his personality is not nearly that intense in normal settings. And yes, there’s physical ability there. But … “the longer I looked at the tape, the less I liked it,” says the second NFC QBs coach. “He’s the only one of the top guys that I didn’t see take over a game, like he never said, We’re struggling, f--- this. C.J. did it against Georgia. [Hendon] Hooker did it against Bama. And the offense last year just looked hard, and he never had incredible stats. If you’re a dude, usually you find a way to get yards, and touchdowns work themselves out. But not here.”
     
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    As for the rest of the class? We’ve got a few notes on where the depth of it is.

    • A couple of the guys brought up Houston’s Clayton Tune, who’s 24 and has an impressive library of 1,498 college attempts (making him a very high-rep guy, like Brock Purdy was). “He just plays the position well,” says an AFC OC. “Not a great arm, but this is a good college QB who has some translatable skills—he’s smart, tough, accurate, processes well. He just doesn’t have that one trait that wows you.” The projection here would be he could wind up being a valuable long-term backup for someone as a Day 3 pick.

    Fresno State’s Jake Haener profiled similarly, with his name raised by a few coaches as well. “He’s a smaller guy, but he can play the game,” says an NFC passing-game coordinator. “He can speed it up with his arm; he’s incredibly quick-minded, a good processor. I see a good quality quarterback as a No. 2 guy who’ll fit in right away. They do good things at Fresno that translate right over. It was a fun tape to watch. He has a Drew Brees type of style; the ball just spits out there.” The difference between Tune and Haener? Tune’s a bit of projection coming from Dana Holgorsen’s offense, whereas Haener is considered by some to be maxed out as a player.

    • It caught my eye a couple of weeks back when the Colts crammed a trip to Utah to work out BYU’s Jaren Hall into their quarterback tour (they saw Young and Stroud in California, Richardson in Florida and Levis in Kentucky), and there is indeed some love for the 25-year-old heir to Zach Wilson’s old spot in Provo. “He’s got arm talent,” says an NFC OC. “He’s a smart, mature kid, another older kid. He throws it naturally. He needs some development with coverage recognition, reading defenses and anticipation. And he’s of smaller stature, sort of built like Russell Wilson. But he’s got a good feel for throwing guys open, throwing away from leverage. There’s something natural there. He’ll be a good No. 2.”

    • Two other names that came up—Stanford’s Tanner McKee (a big, old-school, pocket type) and UCLA’s Dorian Thompson-Robinson (who never quite lived up to his billing as a recruit, but finished with a flourish as a sixth-year senior). The former would be a good fit for a team running a traditional offense where he’s playing under center. The latter was the type who was beloved in his college program, and would likely be a match for a lot of teams as a developmental backup.
     
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    Interesting if true… everyone assumed they would be in the running for a possible trade up for a qb. Will see..
     
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    (SI article above on Levis): “Then, there were the interviews. One team heard him say he wouldn’t make excuses for his downturn in play in 2022, as compared to ’21, then had a list of them ready (coordinator change, injuries). Another said he wasn’t pleased when he got asked about eating a banana with the peel on social media. “He’s not a bad guy,” says a second NFC quarterbacks coach. “But he’s very robotic and overly serious; he needs to calm down. He was so angsty.” An AFC passing-game coordinator adds, “He tries to tell you what you want to hear; he gets caught up in it and he’s not being himself. He's trying to be perfect.”

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    Pretty damning. Feels like Demeco would be the type to pick up on that personality trait.

    Hopefully he did.
     
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    Interesting. Nice connect the dots moment there
     
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    Well that answers that.
     
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    Hopefully he picked up on how dumb Stroud is
     
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    At least Levis showed up for the camp...
     
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    Yep, talk about lack of leadership and accountability.
     
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    There’s also been reports about how Stroud was a me first guy last year and hard to coach
     
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    Please post…
     
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    A lot of good draft talk here, what’s the point of posting stuff like this over and over?
     
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