Folks push for stupid trades like this but refuse to resign one of the greatest playmaker cause they couldn't get over the butthurt
You're calling everyone stupid because a group of people don't agree with you. You seem to have shared everything you know that would support your case. Either you're not explaining a great idea well or it's not a good idea. There's no one here who doesn't want what's best for the team. We all ultimately want the same results as you: good development, more wins, a championship, etc.
At the trade deadline UTH only had interest in Collins as a distressed asset where you would have to attach picks to take on his salary. I kind of laughed at that back then but now it kinda is on point.
What would even be the point of Collins? He would just take away minutes from Jabari, who will end up being better.
You really proved the intial prediction wrong with your 3-month campaign of doing exactly what it was predicted you would do: .....In favor of "staying the course" with the Stone-titta rebuild to nowhere.
this logic makes literally no sense. Oh lets just grab players who have been in the league longer just because. Even if they stink and have proven next to nothing. oh and over pay them and give up legit assets. what a stupid ass double down.
Actually, Phx had him as a backup to Durant in case that fell through. Anyway, nothing happening with the Rockets next week - so let's get some people offended about the idea of hte Rockets exploring getting better by getting veteran players. I say the Rockets should redouble their efforts to acquire Collins now that he is available on the extra cheap. Not just redouble, but strongly redouble - come at me boys. LOL - look out, did you use a large language model to generate that response - it's shockingly human!
oh look out. SF with the 3 months ago i looked like an idiot and 3 months later I still look like an idiot doubling down. Shocking!
I'm just honestly trying to figure out your angle Obviously, the Rockets shoudl look to add veteran players (and a veteran coach) who are capable of doing better than the "let's throw 19 and 20 year olds" - maybe that player is John Collins, maybe also not, maybe it's James Harden, maybe it's somebody entirely different that nobody has even mentioned . That's the road the team is pursuing despite your "the only thing to do is stay the course" bullshit you said for months. Meanwhile, the course actually lead into the toilet from January to March as the Rockets showed almost no progress in the second half of the season. Maybe it's not even the right move. Whatever. In seeriousness, don't even know what you're arguing about anymore. You don't like John collins, ok fine. Hell I don't like John Collins. I don't think it's out of the question the Rockets kick the tires on john collins and other similar pplayers, given how bad they are. Sorry that it makes you unhappy.
its not hard to figure out. you don't use picks and players to pick up a mediocre player making $125 mil who doesn't make a difference. and hes now playing as bad as Nix, thinking that of all times is the right time to double down makes literally no sense Your logic is just grabbing players who just have been in the league longer so theyre better is just nonsense. disregarding everything from actual assets, worth, player value,
Yeah, this is where I am now too. I have no doubt Collins can still play at a reasonably high level, and if you believe what others say around the league, the issue isn't Collins as much as it is Young. Still, I think I want a #1 going back if I take on Collins.
OK, well I'll retract my demand that the Rockets use "picks and players". I'm not aware of ever making such a demand, but it's hereby retracted. Are you happy? It is funny that you guys keep harping on his salary - like you're getting an extra check from Tillman if the Rockets don't use the $64 million in empty cap space. It's not your money; you shouldn't care.
yeah i should care because its the very issue that kept the rockets from fulfilling their highest ceiling possible when they had the opportunity. Instead being cheap cost the rockets being able to put out the best team they possibly could and scraped the bottom of the barrell for scrubs. So now the logic is to just spend on scrubs just bc. Yeah I do care because that's ass backwards. funny how things work now. laugh at other teams while the rockets were contenders for spending dumb on worthless players. Now the right move is lets spend on mediocre role players because we yeah it doesnt matter.
I am not saying the Rockets should take on Collins. I think that he is better than you do, but I also get that he hasn't played well lately and even when he played well, he had some limitations. The only way I would take Collins would be if the Rockets made a trade and then plugged in Collins next to Jabari and received a #1 pick. I was only going to say, that I think Collins only has 3 years left on his contract. He still make a lot per season, but it isn't as bad as 5 years.
