1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Public schools would have to display Ten Commandments under bill passed by Texas Senate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Apr 20, 2023.

  1. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,051
    Likes Received:
    15,225
    I think the Muslim is actually fine on this one since Islam considers the Torah to be a legit (but imperfect) earlier revelation. Broader point still stands, of course.
     
    mtbrays likes this.
  2. mtbrays

    mtbrays Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2007
    Messages:
    8,598
    Likes Received:
    7,981
    Why should the state endorse and impose one particular religion's commandments, nearly half of which are related to religious worship, in a public setting where people of other, valid faiths are present? How is that not a violation of the establishment clause?
     
    rockbox, ROCKSS and Andre0087 like this.
  3. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    81,372
    Likes Received:
    121,702
    AroundTheWorld likes this.
  4. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    It shouldn't, but it's pretty harmless.
     
  5. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    45,954
    Likes Received:
    28,046
    This was (not) a thing among my evangelical friends... Dhalsim faints, or is that downward dog?

    Why Schools Are Banning Yoga
    Mindfulness programs have become popular on K–12 campuses, but in some parts of the country concerns about religious intrusion keep the trend at bay.

    ...The trend, however, seems to have been accompanied by an uptick in vocal pushback against the idea. In 2016, an elementary school in Cobb County, Georgia, became the subject of heated controversy after introducing a yoga program. Parents’ objections to the yoga classes—on the grounds that they promoted a non-Christian belief system—were vociferous enough to compelthe district to significantly curtail the program, removing the “namaste” greeting and the coloring-book exercises involving mandalas. A few years before that, a group of parents sued a San Diego County school district on the grounds that its yoga program promoted Eastern religions and disadvantaged children who opted out. While a judge ruled in favor of the district, the controversy resurfaced two years ago amid concerns that the program was a poor use of public funds in already strapped schools. Meanwhile, just last month the Alabama Board of Education’s long-standing ban on yoga caused some ballyhoo after a document listing it as one of the activities prohibited in “gym class” was recirculated, grabbing the attention of a Hindu activist
    ...
    The most vocal opponents tend to cite yoga’s Hindu and Buddhist roots, arguing that the line between those origins and secular practices is often blurry. Yoga encompasses all kinds of approaches and techniques, some more spiritual than others, but those roots often filter into even the most innocuous of mindful-movement routines. Religious influences are, arguably, even baked into elements as simple as “om” chants, poses with Sanskrit names, and, as the controversy in Georgia attests, collective “namaste” greetings.

    ...
    In the Cobb County case, some parents felt that the school was using a double standard in allowing yoga classes yet banning other forms of religious practice in schools. “No prayer in schools. Some don’t even say the Pledge [of Allegiance], yet they’re pushing ideology on our students,” one mother, Susan Jaramillo, told a journalist for the area’s NBC affiliate. “Some of those things are religious practices that we don’t want our children doing in our schools.” Yet the school’s principal, who did end up apologizing for and revising the yoga curriculum, argued that much of the parents’ criticism rested on false assumptions about the program—a parent cited by The Washington Post worried, for instance, that the school was promoting a “Far East mystical religion with crystals and chants to be practiced under the guise of stress release meditation.
    ...

    “The minute you put Sanskrit into a curriculum … some parents are going to freak out,” agrees Jai Sugrim, a yoga instructor who’s taught in schools.


     
  6. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    Andre0087 likes this.
  7. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    45,954
    Likes Received:
    28,046
    Nah the k-12 version consists of tame torture poses and sniffing each other's farts ala dutch oven.
     
    AroundTheWorld likes this.
  8. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    I was just looking for an excuse to post something like this lol
     
    Invisible Fan likes this.
  9. CCorn

    CCorn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2010
    Messages:
    22,264
    Likes Received:
    23,038
  10. body slam

    body slam Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2012
    Messages:
    2,989
    Likes Received:
    1,111
    Parents set in on your kids classes and you'll realize it will take more than Jesus to help.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,166
    Likes Received:
    48,318
    I will repeat again that the first commandment is
    “Thou shalt have no other God but me”
    That many are claiming this is just innocuous and good morals for children while arguing against grooming and indoctrination is a fine example of how many blind themselves by ideology.

    Consider a child whose family doesn’t follow Judeo Christian religious views or to no religious views.

    this goes to a frequent point that many argue for personal freedoms when it comes to there traditional values but are all for the state imposing and restricting others values.
     
    Rashmon and Andre0087 like this.
  12. mtbrays

    mtbrays Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2007
    Messages:
    8,598
    Likes Received:
    7,981
    I don't know how you can say "The state shouldn't do x" and "but, it's ok if the state does x" in the same breath.
     
    Andre0087 likes this.
  13. Andre0087

    Andre0087 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    9,983
    Likes Received:
    13,634
    It’s the Republican way…what else could you expect?
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    In contrast to some of y'all who are always trigggggered to the max, some people are able to disagree with something, but not be overly upset about it.
     
  15. jo mama

    jo mama Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,581
    Likes Received:
    9,095
    right on! HAIL SATAN! 666!

    if right wingers (most of whom seem to do a poor job of following the teachings of jesus) want the 10 commandments in every school then the 7 fundamental tenants of satanism should also be displayed. and dont forget the five pillars of islam!

    [​IMG]

    ASSALAMU ALAIKUM EVERYONE!!!
     
    Xopher, ROCKSS, mtbrays and 2 others like this.
  16. mtbrays

    mtbrays Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2007
    Messages:
    8,598
    Likes Received:
    7,981
    If you've read my responses to you in many threads I think you'd be hard-pressed to call me "trigggggered". I try to maintain a calm, respectful demeanor most of the time.

    That said, I don't take the pointless erosion of civil liberties lightly. Further division of American society is all but guaranteed when extremists on all sides dig their heels in. Insisting on state-sanctioned imposition of religion is a basic, fundamental violation of this country's earliest founding principles. Shrugging it off is just as damaging because those who support the display of the 10 commandments in every classroom might not stop there. Under this bill's logic, what is to prevent the display of John 3:16 in every school?

    For a voting bloc so concerned with things that should be taught at home, religious conservatives sure are eager to stand in the way between other parents and their children's spiritual development.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    I didn't mean you.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,181
    Likes Received:
    20,334
    Right wing commandments

    1. Thou shalt not expose anyone including your children to your beliefs
    2. Thou shalt accept my religious beliefs being forced upon you and your children
     
  19. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,051
    Likes Received:
    15,225
    Is this argument going to work for gun control debates? "Yeah, yeah, second amendment and whatever, but a gun registry is pretty harmless." :rolleyes:
     
    dmoneybangbang likes this.
  20. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    I think I have posted a lot on this. I'm probably more anti-gun than the staunchest Democrats.
     

Share This Page