This is so hilarious. You and others didn’t give Dan any credibility at all, quite the opposite, when he said Young was clearly the best QB in this draft and now you want to use something he said as validation for a player you like. Wow
Did the stats change because of what Dan said? All I heard were of bunch of what ifs and maybes. If you find stats different than what I quoted, feel free to post them.
If Demeco and Caserio don't take Stroud, and he ends up in the division, and he's good, one or both(likely just Caserio...and after a few years) will be done, unless they fix it fast. If they draft Stroud, they can likely play the consensus QB2 card. Really risky not to draft him and let him go into the division. You're basically saying that you think he will be average, at best.
I'm loving us coming out and spreading smoke even if it's all for not. By saying we aren't sold on a QB, Nick's phone has to be ringing for the #2 pick. Don't just blindly pick Anderson or Wilson even if that's really what you want to do. See what the opportunity cost of staying there is. If it's not far to fall to pick up a 2024 1st rounder, I think you might strongly have to consider that, especially if it's a defender you're targeting. I know this isn't the mock thread, but I played with mocking us trading #2 to the Raiders and at #7 I could see getting a guy like Carter. Yes, I really like Anderson or maybe Wilson at 2, but it'd be hard to pass up getting Carter + 2024 1st for those guys at 2.
I completely understand that, and am for the most part in the same camp. But if we get 2 good years out of Stroud then 2 years of elite play and he decides he wants out, I'd gladly take that over taking 3 years of below-average Will Levis.
Playing devil’s advocate here… If CJ is punished for having TOO good of protection and weapons for him to put up the numbers that he did in college, wouldn’t that mean you would consider the opposite for AR? Believe me I get the debate with to; select a QB or not select a QB, arguments. THEN if the answer is yes, which one is the “right” QB to target and ultimately draft. This draft has some pretty eerie similarities to that of 2018. You’ve got quite a few QBs with a variety of archetypes yet only 2 of the 6 first round QBs has made the All-Pro squad. (Allen & Jackson) There’s a freak athlete that has arguably better measurables than one of those All-Pro QBs (Richardson) and another that has the same upside with his arm and body type (Levis) to evolve into the other current All-Pro QB in the NFL. I’m not playing devil’s advocate to vouch or prop these two players up because like Allen and Jackson they each have their warts coming out of college but simply… what if? We only have a week left and there’s a lot of promise in how exciting this draft will turn out when all is said and done.
You don't know how Levis is going to turn out anymore than you know how Stroud's going to turn out. Put a healthy Levis in Strouds situation and I will bet that you would get similar results.
I completely understand that, and am for the most part in the same camp. But if we get 2 good years out of Stroud then 2 years of elite play and he decides he wants out, I'd gladly take that over taking 3 years of below-average Will Levis. IF this happens, I expect it'll take a while for this to reveal itself. That would mean 2 unexpected things not only happen (Stroud not it, Levis is), but happen very quickly. Once you think Stroud isn't the guy, get another one. I wouldn't let Will Levis factor into any decision making right now.
