Wemby or bust, trade the picks if we don't get Wemby.

You must be one of those broke ass negative haters at family gatherings.

 

When Rockets play like this OKC team is when the Rockets cash out the picks. Right now the core is NOT winning jack s*** on its own. When that happens, go all in (watch Presti easily outbids competitors with those 15 picks in the next five drafts) Right now, as you said, if the risks are not mitigated, going all in is downright stupid. (Trading the Clipper pick is sensible because of roster crunch, fine. But the top 7 pick?! Come on now - the pick itself is risk mitigation without paying anything.)

Why this Thunder team rebuild has been so successful is how Presti utilized Cap Space shrewdly by taking on $$$ for picks and being patient. Cashing out when there are still ample risks is exactly how you end up in the mediocrity mill. See the bulls.

On the other hand the whole rebuild road traveled really emanates from and reflects the incentives trickling down from the ownership. There are always fans that are antsy. Giving the GM too much pressure (or empowering an insecure GM), however, to turning things around too quickly is the recipe for long term failure.

 

I don't think we have enough developmental core pieces. We don't have as many as Orlando or OKC to name a couple. The Rockets don't even have a franchise player at this point. The best bet to get a franchise player is at the top of the draft.

The Rockets can trade away the Clippers pick if they want, this isn't considered a good draft outside of the top 5-6 anyway. However, where the Rockets are likely to be picking in the lottery, there should be a pretty good prospect.

Sorry, but none of those players scream franchise player to me. They all have serious flaws that will likely keep them from being top 10 players in the league.

The reality is that most likely Scoot Henderson and Brandon Miller in a year or two will be better than most NBA players.

The league is different - but players are also becoming all star level players at a younger age.

You can get veterans without trading the lottery pick.

You aren't getting Jaylen Brown. The Celtics are not dealing him to the Rockets and it is very unlikely he wants to come to a team that has averaged 20 wins a season the last 3 years.

 

Yeah.

1. Having enough 19 years old doesn’t equate having enough TOP level talents. AND none of them has panned out YET.
   
2. Trading for guys like JB is both RISKY and COSTS A LOT (if it ever is possible to begin with).

 

You can't draw an arbitrary endpoint at the draft portion when none of our guys are great players, yet. The Process Sixers became good when Embiid became an All-Star at 23 and Simmons was a very good #2 at 21. Both were high lottery draft picks they developed. The late 2000s Sonics/Thunder were bad even with Westbrook/Durant until they added rookie Harden and Durant became the best scorer in the NBA at 21. In both cases it was the impact rookie and the development of one of their other young guys into a star that took them from winning 20 something games, to 50+ wins.

This team needs to keep their 3rd high-lottery pick, regardless of where it lands, and hope that one of those 3 (Green/Smith/??) becomes a superstar. The first two don't look like to be that level stars, yet, and there's a good chance they may never reach that level.

 

Sorry the draft pick portion of the re-build includes this year’s pick. That is what Stone set out to begin with. Trading either of the top 2 picks for a veteran, even Brown, would be a mistake. I like picking up Brown or preferably Bridges with the Nets picks, but not with the top 2 pick in a draft that most teams view as 3-5 deep. Don’t really want to draft at 20. I would either kick that pick down the road or use it for fodder in a trade for a vet.

 

And what if that doesn't work out, 3 more 20-30 win seasons with no lottery pick ?

That seems terrible, why would you root for that team that cedes an entire decade.

I don't mind a team trying to be mildly competitive.

Not saying it's you personally, but there's a general undercurrent here whenever somebody proposes acquiring any veteran (Harden all the way on down) or any devation from just pure tanking for some faction to reject it in favor of infinite tanking.

It's the easiest thing in the world to sit back with any individual move and say "that's short termism, that will not result in a championship!" Guess what, 97% of teams moves amount to jack squat every year when they don't win a championship.

just get better, don't be painful to watch, please Rockets.

 

The Gods forbid we pick 6th or 7th. I'm only familiar with 5 of their games. Oh and Grady Dick's instagram account.

 

If you can get a D Lively with the Clip's pk you do it. They need that size and length behind Sengun. Even if you have to throw in a Porter, JC, Garuba or KMJ to move up and get it done. They should have moved up for Edwards last year. Lively is not on his level just yet, but could get there.

There's no reason to trade that pk when you can draft someone that fits the team better and has more upside in the long run.

 

You must have misunderstood my point, because I never said I wanted them to be uncompetitive. This was the window to get lottery picks. Next year we start losing them, so we should try to be good. I'm all for Harden, or whoever, brought in as free agents. Trade for some good players. Bring in vets who play well and play hard.

What I'm saying is we got 3 shots in this limited window to hit on a high lottery pick. God knows I never want this team to be this bad ever again. Don't give up on the opportunity, bought by this tragic season, to draft a superstar. You don't need to do that to get better. A good coach can find time to develop the rookie in a winning atmosphere that holds players accountable.

 

You must be one of those broke ass negative haters at family gatherings.

Too long didn’t read lol.

 

What is an event that is relatable to 14 percent odds so people have some perspective of how much of an actual chance we have relative to other events that have similar probability.

Maybe it's around the same odds of getting laid on a night out clubbing and bar hopping? Or maybe the odds of waking up and it's raining outside.

 

Here’s two, on the day of the 2016 election:

“Mrs. Clinton’s 15% chance of losing is about the same as the probability that an N.F.L. kicker misses a 37-yard field goal.” — The New York Times’ The Upshot, Nov. 8, 2016.
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So, on the day of the 2016 election, hoping that Trump wins or hoping an NFL kicker misses a 37-yarder doesn’t sound so bad as hoping to win the NBA lottery.

 

why not use $60M in cap space to add veterans AND draft in the top 7?

I do agree we will have a roster crunch and need a consolidation trade, but I don't understand the need to go all in on vets. we can do both at the same time.

 

Damn. Mikael Bridges is a superstar now. you dont say

 

My mistake I didn’t see the “not”.